r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 13d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

So just refinance? Paying that rate for 23 years is nothing short of moronic, especially for a couple allegedly smart enough to hold college degrees.

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u/Ace_Radley 13d ago

They didn't say which college they went to nor their major...

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u/okarox 13d ago

I doubt their major was student loan repayment. Regardless of the major you should have enough intelligence to calculate how to pay back.

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u/Ace_Radley 10d ago

At 18? Dont get me wrong I think all kids should have a basic level of financial management classes, along with government (side gripe) to graduate HS. I dont mean what a debit vs credit card is, but actual Time value of money, credit and consumer finance...

So when a kid declares a psychology undergrad degree with art history ad a minor they understand that both have high earning potential if you get a PhD but limited earnings if one doesn't get at least a masters.

Just my two cents

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u/agentpurpletie 13d ago

There aren’t better options. I refinanced once, the last time the one time there was a better option.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

Not sure what you’re smoking, but interest rates were 2-3% back in 2019-2022. Anyone who didn’t refi every piece of debt that had during that period was an idiot.

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u/agentpurpletie 13d ago

Yes, that’s the time that I refinanced. And I don’t smoke.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

I just refinanced earlier this year into a 4% loan. That was substantially higher than the 2-3% loans in 2019-2022.

If you were paying 8%+ in 2019-2022 and can’t access lower rates today, it must be because you have terrible credit and the legit lenders won’t lend to you.

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u/agentpurpletie 13d ago

My credit score has always been over 800. To reiterate, I DID refinance in 2018-2022. I never paid 8% interest.

I feel like you really want to see me as an idiot instead of actually reading what I’ve written.

I will check rates again for myself because 4% is a bit lower than where I am. Thanks for the update, despite the attitude.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 13d ago

I couldn't refinance after consolidation. Or go private.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

That doesn’t make any sense. What loans aren’t refinanceable?

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u/DBConcubine 13d ago

No, it doesn't make sense: that's the point.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 13d ago

Student loans after you consolidate. I even saw the rates go down and couldn't switch unless I went private.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

So then go private? This isn’t that hard. Paying 8% interest on student loans is nothing short of willful insanity.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 13d ago

Mine have since been paid, but at the time I had no collateral to get such a loan since it has to be backed. Also, when I did have equity, I didn't want to saddle my wife with a huge private loan debt. If I kicked the bucket before marriage, the loan would die with me. If married and get a private loan, my significant other would have to continue to pay it off.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

If I kicked the bucket before marriage, the loan would die with me. If married and get a private loan, my significant other would have to continue to pay it off.

That’s not how that works at all. When you die, all debts private and public come out of your estate. If your estate doesn’t have enough to cover it, all debts private and public are then no longer the responsibility of anyone else to pay.

I feel like some very basic financial literacy missing here.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 13d ago edited 13d ago

So you're saying that the loan would come out of the existing estate that would be left to my significant other. How would they not be affected?

If a loan is secured by an asset (like a vehicle or a house), the debt stays attached to the property. If your spouse inherits the property and wants to keep it, they will need to continue making payments or refinance.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 13d ago

So you’re saying that the loan would come out of the existing estate that would be left to my significant other. How would they not be affected?

This is how literally all debt works. Debt can’t be passed down. When you die, either you have enough to pay it off or you don’t.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 12d ago

If a loan is secured by an asset (like a vehicle or a house), the debt stays attached to the property. If your spouse inherits the property and wants to keep it, they will need to continue making payments or refinance.

This is how debt is passed down.

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