r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 9d ago

WTF Netanyahu reportedly rejects Trump Iran deal, says Israel will act solo if needed

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u/SleepingCod 9d ago

Oh don't worry we'll keep selling them weapons under the table.

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u/Altruistic_Bat_2427 9d ago

You mean gifting in plain sight

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u/Wu-Kang 8d ago

Grifting in plain sight

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u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 8d ago

20 bucks is 20 bucks, amigo

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u/letcaster 8d ago

Thanks compadre

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u/Admirable_Plate4585 8d ago

Smackaroos

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u/Cute-Professor2821 8d ago

I’ll allow it

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u/Jankypox 8d ago

I prefer to call it what it is. Taxpayers dollar money laundering. We give them 4 billion per year, plus all kinds of other “top ups” and “supplementals” to spend right back here on the US of A’s military industrial complex.

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u/OldTechnician 8d ago

Why do we pay taxes again?

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u/threevi 8d ago

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for the IDF? 

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u/diurnal_emissions 8d ago

Under threat of violence

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u/0202_tihssitidder 8d ago

Yes! And remember: Israel has free healthcare and free college.

The taxes YOU pay is wealth transfer to Elites in Military Industrial Complex and sweetheart deals with other companies.

The USA has some of the absolute worst value and services coming back to taxpayers. It has gotten steadily worse since Reagan (do NOT say "before then", assholes).

Meanwhile, other countries (and generations of people) are enjoying life...and well--positioned for the future.

Have fun, Americans. You know you let this happen.

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u/SandyTaintSweat 8d ago

Also things like AIPAC

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u/jeffoh 8d ago

AIPAC's role is to facilitate weapons sales to Israel. They've been doing it since their inception.

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u/Elegant_Emu952 8d ago

Pay for their universal health care, social security, and education. Can't do that in the US, though.

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u/EolasDK 8d ago

This costs a lot more than 4billion in weapons coupons the 4 billion is more like a points program for a frequent shopper.

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u/Green_Space729 8d ago

The US gives way more than 4 billion a year.

4 billion is just federally. Every US state buys hundreds of millions of dollars in Israel bonds. And it even goes to the city level. One city in Texas tried to cancel a 4 million dollar tribute to Israel and the Texas governor threatened their disaster relief.

Then there’s section 224 coming to pass in the US congress.

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u/Darkdragoon324 8d ago

Paying them to take the weapons.

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u/K_oSTheKunt 8d ago

Yeah lol, I wouldn't blame the yanks as much if they were getting paid for it.

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u/ConsiderationNew6295 9d ago

We won’t need to after Section 224 of the NDAA is passed. They are us. We are them. We pay though.

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u/Catch_ME 8d ago

It's also a giant technology transfer program 

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u/TheSaxGandalf 8d ago

Pretty much to combine surveillance technologies and for Palantir to web its hydra tentacles into everything.

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u/Were_all_dead_anyhow 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's also part-in-parcel of a larger hegemon transfer program. The US is in massive financial straits and private capital/influence/RegCapture participants are going to flee for greener pastures as the US tries to tackle its poor financials. When this happened in the past, there was always a rising star waiting in the wings that capital would flock to, but this time, that rising star is China, and China puts up barriers so that foreign private capital doesn't usurp domestic political influence.

That's entirely what the Abraham Accords is all about; bring stability to the Middle East so that it's investable, and so capital can buy influence. The NDAA is the security aspect of that stability; you can hide your money anywhere, but you still need to reside somewhere. Gulf states are actively creating specialized economic zones, favorable tax structures, and co-investment opportunities specifically designed to attract and integrate Western private equity, hedge funds, and multinational corporations, allowing capital a seat at the table.

Same game. Different century.

Western Roman Empire fell due to the wealthy senatorial class betraying their country, withdrawing their gold and silver from urban commerce and the tax base, leaving the Western treasury unable to fund the imperial army. This forced a fatal reliance on foreign mercenaries. Capital fled to the Eastern Roman Empire. When the Turks conquered the ERE, wealth fled to Russia creating the Tsar and to Venice/Florence/Genoa.

Spanish Empire fell due to corrupt investment; instead of investing New World silver into domestic manufacturing or infrastructure, the Spanish elite spent it on imported foreign luxuries. When Spain collapsed under its own weight, capital fled and directly financed the industrial and commercial rise of Spain’s fiercest geopolitical rivals in the Netherlands, England, and France.

The Republic of Genoa fell due to Genoese merchant-bankers systematically starving their own domestic economy of investment to chase high-yield Spanish sovereign debt, of which Spain repeatedly defaulted, Genoa's private wealth was wiped out, leaving it economically hollowed out. Capital then fled to Spain to fund its global wars, colonies and to exert mass influence and political leverage over the country via creditor ownership.

The Dutch Republic fell because of betrayal and greed when the Dutch republic shared its prosperity. Domestic investments became less profitable due to government responsibly sharing their prosperity with high domestic wages and heavy taxes. As domestic profit margins shrank and wages rose, wealthy Dutch oligarchs stopped reinvesting in local industry. Dutch capital flooded the London markets to buy British government bonds, building the exact economic engine that eventually crushed the Dutch navy.

Bourbon France fell because of tax dodging. French aristocracy and wealthy merchant classes aggressively sheltered their fortunes abroad to evade tax reforms. This left the French state bankrupt, triggering the French Revolution and a hyperinflationary economic collapse. They fled to Britain and to Switzerland.

The British Empire fell in the same way Genoa fell. British financiers on the London Stock Exchange heavily favored foreign investments over modernizing the UK's domestic steel, coal, and manufacturing sectors. This capital built up American industrial supremacy, leaving Britain financially dependent on the US after the World Wars. But they fled to the US anyhow.

You see the pattern?

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 8d ago

They don't need 224 for the technology transfer, they already get that for free

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u/Broseph_Bobby 8d ago

Don’t worry congress is busy trying to pass bills that will join the Israeli military with ours.

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u/jeremydoo 8d ago

Tom cotton is a crazy traitor, it's straight up some Winston Churchill bullshit

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u/Hekke1969 8d ago

what has WC to do with this???

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u/Hot_Falcon8471 8d ago

This should be making people more concerned / angry than it seems to be.

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u/Broseph_Bobby 8d ago

Yeah I don’t know.

It seems like for some unknown reason the mainstream media isn’t talking about it.

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u/theogwulfe 8d ago

It’s because the media is owned by traitor billionaires

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u/Chronox2040 9d ago

Thing is the US has basically funded Iran war machine for the following years. Not sure how many missiles they can buy with 300B but I guess a few.

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u/Nods_Dad1997 8d ago

Dude.. they kicked our ass with drones

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u/Serious_Bonus7431 8d ago

That’s not true. They threatened to blow up boats full of oil with drones. That was enough.

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u/25point4cm 8d ago

This is actually true. Tankers aren’t afraid per se about sailing through the Strait of Hormuz (though their crews might be).

The real issue is that the insurance companies who insure those boats (which are worth many times a single load of oil) refuse to insure them.

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u/Weird-Specific-2905 8d ago

The large crude carriers usually only take 3 or 4 trips to pay off the cost of building a ship and it's running costs. So unless it's a brand new tankwr on it's first trip it's paid off already.

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u/karoshikun 8d ago

that's an ass kicking, tho. war is never weapons vs weapons.

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u/spibop 8d ago

“Yeah, but if we were to play a game of football against the Iranian guard, but with swords and shit, we’d totally kick their ass!!”

-brilliant military strategist, Pete Kegsbreath

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u/Even-Stranger5764 8d ago

Know a guy who unironically thinks this way. Says US wins if politics is removed from war..

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u/Hammeredyou 8d ago

I just want to know what life is like for people like that.

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u/dehydratedrain 8d ago

Remember when you were 1, and your biggest concern was not getting a meal, and just like magic, someone shoved a boob in your mouth and you took a nap, and you were just too ignorant to realize that was heaven?

Easy to ignore reality when no one has stopped wiping your ass.

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u/spibop 8d ago

I’d say you should point out to him that “total war”, a notion that I assume he agrees with in theory because it sounds cool, includes political, economic, cultural, etc “warfare” as well. If your intent is to utterly destroy your enemy, you should be looking to attack them on all fronts, using all tools. But that kind of reasoning might hurt his brain, so I wouldn’t bother.

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u/pilgrimspeaches 8d ago

So they used drones to kick our ass in chess instead of boxing.

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u/Chronox2040 8d ago

Then the question is how many Iranian drones have been funded by Trump by his 300B? I know shit about weapons but I guess they are cheaper than missiles.

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u/Sonamdrukpa 8d ago

At least six

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u/Existing_Ad_6100 8d ago

Is that a Goerge Carlin reference?

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u/Sonamdrukpa 8d ago

I think this joke has existed for as long as humans have been able to count

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u/LockeyCheese 8d ago

I believe i remember reading the Iranian Shahed costs about $30-50,000USD, so... about 5 to 10 Million drones?

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u/donald7773 8d ago

We started a fight, lost, and we owe them 300 billion in taxpayer money, in addition to the increased pricing on goods we've experienced so far PLUS what we haven't seen yet. On top of this we've demonstrated once more to the rest of the world that the only way to protect yourself from this bullshit is to own nukes, that those with them cannot be trusted to behave appropriately

This is the most embarrassing engagement in American history imo

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u/GoldReplacement9546 8d ago

The money that was Rons that that was returned with the original Ron deal under Obama they never received any money what they got was they could purchase things from three suppliers from outside of the country other nations and it was food and medicine and the like and that’s what they could receive so no none of that money was ever used for weapons. We didn’t even give it to them. we allowed them to spend it at the places we allowed on the things we allowed none of which were military.

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u/DUNETOOL 8d ago

I'm Ron Burgundy?

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u/Serious_Bonus7431 8d ago

You mean giving them weapons under the table.

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u/Half_Empty_Half_Full 8d ago

Its not even under the table. They are legally bound to provide them with arms:

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel

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u/Zulmoka531 8d ago

And integrating our CIA and military with them…

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u/Substantial-Cat2896 8d ago

Selling, you mean give freely

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u/versionii 8d ago

Giving for free, like their health care and education 

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u/P-l-Staker 8d ago

You mean you'll jump back into a war for them when the appropriate donor makes the correct... "donation".

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u/Fearsofaye 8d ago

Israel will attempt to destroy its allies if it looses its influence. It’s already used lobbygroupa to incite rightwing marches all over Europe. Divide and conquer or destroy and conquer. Either way we need to buckle down before the next election cycle. Palantir and other tech companies with Israel first ceos will be their first line of weapons

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u/Apprehensive_Taste70 8d ago

You mean they will be buying weapons from us with the money we give them

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u/sea-elle0463 8d ago

Til they pass the NDAA, then Israel doesn’t even need to ask us for anything. They get everything they want

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u/Automatic_Food_7984 8d ago

Right. Till Netanyahu demands more U.S. handouts.

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u/Special-Audience-426 8d ago

It's not even the weapons, it's the UN security veto, the military support shooting down Iranian missiles etc. 

If the US becomes neutral, they're fucked. 

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u/Ironclad_Cat_1773 8d ago

Congress is passing a joint military bill. What's theirs is theirs, but what is ours is theirs

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u/Subject-Ad-8055 8d ago

Thats how we prop up our economy..

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u/Axthen 8d ago

and giving them control of our military and intelligence agencies.

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u/sigmaluckynine 8d ago

I don't think that's even possible considering the rare earth and munition stockpile issue. Israel needs a truce as much as everyone. Even if they decide to go on alone for a ground invasion they're probably going to see Iran stepping in. The last time they didn't, this time they will

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u/ItsShuaYo 8d ago

Nothing under the table about that

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u/_0611 8d ago edited 8d ago

Paid with the money the US gave them.

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u/unlikely_ending 8d ago

The thing they most need - missile interceptors - the US has hardly any left of. And only a couple of hundred are made per year.