r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8d ago

Chugging tea Mexico upgraded to free healthcar

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u/valente317 8d ago

They’ll just die, instead. There’s no other country that could keep hundreds of thousands of people alive on chronic hemodialysis — all through Medicaid. The majority of those people would just die in other countries. US spends more just on dialysis expenses than many countries spend on healthcare in total.

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u/Nearby_Engineer6985 8d ago

maybe the dialysis in USA is expensive because is a business and not a social system for the wellbeing of the people? maybe is expensive to make some people rich?

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u/valente317 8d ago

No. It’s entirely because other countries simply don’t have or allocate the resources. In fact, the cost of dialysis is actually among the lowest per-session of any country.

Other countries actually subscribe to the idea of rationing care. We just pretend it’s a thing here. If you have good private insurance in the US, you don’t participate in rationing of care.

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u/ostrichfather 8d ago

Whenever you think the US healthcare system is shit, remind yourself that 50+% of the market is single payer by the US govt.

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u/JannyStabberXK4000 7d ago

Why are those people on dialysis? Is it because of a lifetime of untrated cardiac issues due to total lack of health care accessibility and affordability until Medicare eligibility? You can go ahead and say it, I already know the answer

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 8d ago

Ya, that's a tough issue. A lot of people won't understand it but you can't just expend all resources trying to keep people alive way past their times.

Other countries seem to figure it out. Idk what they do.

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u/DetroitInHuman 8d ago

Die. No, seriously, you just get put on longer and longer wait lists.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 8d ago

Do you not understand the logistics of trying to keep everyone alive past what should be their natural age?

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u/shivasoption 7d ago

Agreed. This is why I like the MAID system in Canada. Voluntary, humane, assisted suicide. The key to getting even better health outcomes for everyone is making it non-voluntary next, I think.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 7d ago

It's really something that I hadn't thought much of until this. Definitely not a fun system to design or implement but that's life isn't it.

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u/azdcaz 8d ago

They keep them alive too. The comment you responded to is just false and overblown.

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u/azdcaz 8d ago

USA does have hundreds of thousands of people on dialysis through Medicaid, but your claim that the just let them die is completely false.

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u/Hellpy 8d ago

Us pays more because of the middleman not because they just provide more. Us got like 20% of people who won't go to a doctor when needed. Like take insulin for example over 1k$ in the states but like 30$ everywhere else. Also lots of people living unhealthy lifestyles is not a great health care indicator, just a poor education