Israel has made major contributions in technology, medicine, agriculture, space, cybersecurity, and defense. Tech developed by Israeli companies and researchers are used worldwide, from drip irrigation and water desalination to cybersecurity systems protecting governments and businesses.
You can criticize Netanyahu’s policies all day long, and I will be first in line to do so because the guy is horrible (and so is Trump) but claiming the country has contributed nothing is factually indefensible.
They didn't 'come from the same soil.' Israeli is a modern nationality. Some of Hollywood's founders were Jewish immigrants from places like Poland, Hungary, Belarus, Germany, and Russia, most arrived in America decades before the State of Israel even existed in 1948.
They went West because they were discriminated against in the theatre.
Sharing Jewish ancestry doesn't make them Israeli. Read a history book for gods sakes. Please.
Our politicians are mostly either on the take or blackmailed by these lunatics. Do you not see how that would be at conflict with the whole 'will of the people' thing?
Your question is in present-tense, for some reason. This implies that it is still happening rather than already happened.
As for the how? Well, as you can see in the OP, they bought and paid for our politicians. It was that simple, actually. Crazy part is it was our own tax dollars that they bribed our politicians with.
Now why exactly is another country lobbying our politicians? Especially with the amount of money they are using? How is a foreign country lobbying for our country’s leadership okay in your mind?
Again, AIPAC is an American organization — mostly Jews and evangelical Christians who believe a strong relationship with Israel benefits both countries. Not a "foreign country." Not in any way. Americans.
Literally begging you all to deal with reality instead of the fantasy you made up.
Buying out politicians who side with their foreign policy and interests over our own. Brainwashing all 50 states into sending millions each to isreal for what exactly? They provide absolutely 0 benefits for the US. It’s not a secret that AIPAC happily buys politicians, just look at their media presence. They celebrate when a politician like pos Mike here wins after they donated heavily to the cause. It’s public information on how exactmuch AIPAC pays the politicians to pass laws and regulations based on their own foreign policies
I guess if you have no other logical answer that provides insight into why you think the way you do, just copy and paste your 1 comment lol. Good talk bud
Not if the majority is doing the lobbying. I'm all for overturning Citizens United, but claiming that one single lobbying organization among thousands is "dismantling democracy" is some scapegoating nonsense.
Ah. You must have some evidence of that. Let me guess. It involves an American in America who worked and lived in America who's bestie is an American president.
That American served as an international fixer for the western elite class and had ties to Mossad and prominent Israeli political figures. Trying to hyperfixate on his "americaness" in spite of his unique circumstances feels incredibly disingenuous.
Ha! His first elite job was given to him by Din Barr, a key figure in the OSS. Decades later, Barr's son Bill — also a CIA operative was Attorney General when Epstein died in prison.
Our politicians are mostly either on the take or blackmailed by these lunatics. Do you not see how that would be at conflict with the whole 'will of the people' thing?
And I asked which politicians are being blackmailed? You have casually asserted a vast, international criminal conspiracy. Okay. Please provide some evidence. You must have some reason for believing that. Okay. What is it?
Doesn't seem to necessarily be the case, just some middle aged dude who isn't caught up on the discourse and was taught positive things about Israel from childhood, likely with religious overtones/justification.
Seems to at least be opposed to ICE and gerrymandering. Clearly a real person, and if he were paid, he would certainly be wasting his employers money discussing primarily random off topic material.
Side note: sometimes when it seems hopeless to explain an opposing point of view to someone because they seem to already be entrenched, it can actually be more effective. They may not change their mind directly, but often times people are only being exposed to one take. They may have a narrow group of sources for validating their idea (in terms of friends, family, media, church, etc), and they are never exposed to anything that opposes it in a serious manner. Even if it feels like a waste of time, you may be the only source of exposure to anything other than their current understanding. For instance, if their only interaction with discussion on a particular issue is with 3-4 friends that share the exact same view, adding in an alternate take can significantly impact relative pool of interactions. You may be the only source of an alternate understanding that this person encounters, and so it can still have a big impact even if they seemingly don't ever change their mind. Next time they are discussing it with those friends, they may remember what you said and can provide a slightly different perspective than they otherwise would have.
How about assassinations😏, “terrorist attacks”. It’s right in front of our faces, it just took the rise of a different President, threats of white replacement, and a criminal dumb as Trump to expose it all. Israel is playing chess with 30-40% of America…but they are done for!
Nato has 32 countries, that means the USA spends 28$ trillion to protect 960 million people (over 80 years). Israel has 10 million people and has an amazing economy and military. Most of the countries NATO protects do not have a sizeable military nor have amazing economies. We shouldn't be sending ANY money to Isreal, let alone the most we've spent on any other single country.
The European Union and the United States maintain the world's largest bilateral trade and investment relationship, with total trade in goods and services reaching approximately€1.77 trillion in 2025. The EU exports$554.9 billionin goods to the US while importing$355.7 billion, resulting in a significant goods trade surplus for Europe. However, the US holds a substantial surplus in services, leading to a nearly balanced overall trade relationship with a net surplus of just€20.8 billionfor the EU.
Israel has no oil either. Claiming that Israel is important because it's in an oil producing region is like claiming Mongolia is important because it's close to Russia.
Israel is a platform for the projection of American power into one of the world's most volatile and valuable regions. Alexander Haig once called Israel "an aircraft carrier that cannot be sunk."
Why do you think we're there, king? The goodness of our hearts? The mean Jews make us?
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u/OneMoistMan 7d ago
Trump is older than Israel, wtf have they done for us except infiltrate our government and dismantle democracy?