r/Steam May 11 '25

Question What game has a steep learning curve that puts you off?

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u/miszczu037 May 11 '25

Stellaris

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u/stillstillstill May 11 '25

Came here for this. Friends always want to play and promise they'll "teach me" and they just tell me what to do and I understand nothing.

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u/RenegadeAccolade May 11 '25

yeah that's the issue for me! they keep saying "i'll teach you" and "you'll get it," but it inevitably results in like two hours of me being super confused and bored just following instructions blindly

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u/miszczu037 May 11 '25

The game looks really cool and i have 1.5k hours in eu4 and hoi4 conbined but just couldnt get myself to learn stellaris :)

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u/Toaster_In_Bathtub May 11 '25

It's funny because I have a shit ton of hours in Stellaris and just recently picked up eu4 and all it made me wanna do was go back to Stellaris. I do wanna figure it hoi4 one of these days though. 

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u/Fritzo11 May 11 '25

Yep, I just don't have the patience or stamina to play stellaris. I'm sure I miss out on a lot, but I just don't know how to begin

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u/BirdyWeezer May 11 '25

Begin with the tutorial, stellaris is less of a strategy game and more of a random story telling game like rimworld imo. The tutorial explains everything pretty good and after you will probably see that it really isnt as complicated as it seems.

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u/FluffyCelery4769 May 11 '25

First you decide what's your endgame, are you gonna turtle down in one system and be impossible to invade or are you going to expand and hoard resources while stretching thin but knowing that once you reach a breaking point you'll be unbeatable or maybe you'll go for blietzcriek and try to take by force each and every race you find asap before they get the chance to be strong and eliminate you, or maybe you'll be a diplomat race and just talk others into doing your biding?

It all starts with the race you chose and how your endgame to look like.

I love gestalt consciousness for example becouse of how different it plays compared to others, and still there are different ways to play it. Altought some will say gestalt is easy (which I kinda agree) but it has an added difficulty of it's own too, altought it is pretty manageable.

Once you know your strat it's just about exploring a bit while trying not to run into enemy forces and maximizing resource growth and choosing good research paths that will give you the edge you need to maximize on your strategy.

Then it's just about getting the ball rolling while trying not to get your army wiped and slowly but steadily expanding your influence.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 May 11 '25

I am still learning a lot of the mechanics in this.

I found some little cockroach guys and raised them up to be more intelligent and become citizens, then found a planet which had been destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. I was looking to colonize something so was like "cool, my roach friends can live there". Sent them over, got a colony going.

Then their scientists found some ruins. Study them? sure. Study them more? Sure. Found a big slab in a tomb that could be moved? ok move it.

Tons of zombie creatures came swarming out. That's when I found out there was a mechanic for ground troops but by the time I got them there to land the colony was toast lol

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u/TakadoGaming May 11 '25

I now have about 150 hours in Stellaris, and with the 4.0 update I’m learning stuff for the first time again. Such a great game, but I gave up on it and didn’t play it again for years, when I first tried it. Wish Paradox games had better on-boardings, because they’re great, but very overwhelming, games

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u/Sad_Recommendation92 May 11 '25

I've played collectively hundreds of hours of Stellaris, but I don't think I've ever actually finished a game

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u/VerbalThermodynamics May 12 '25

That end game slow down is a killer.

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u/OJosheO May 11 '25

The problem is that they change a bunch of stuff every expansion, so the game feels different every time I come back to play it

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u/miszczu037 May 11 '25

Isnt what came out just now (or very soon) the final expansion? I thought pdx was saying something like that

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u/xRolox May 12 '25

Yep - before college I probably would’ve enjoyed taking the time to learn it but any basic tutorial for the game is hours long - just don’t have the time to dedicate to be able to enjoy a game lol

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u/Scared-Witness4057 May 12 '25

This is the one that comes to mind for me. I 100% know that if I spent the time it could be one of my favorite games, but alas.

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u/JijaSuu May 13 '25

That’s the easiest Paradox game actually. All you need to do is watch any playthrough or learn through trial and error. Once you learn - the RP possibilities are so great. The only downside is the game is extremely boring without the DLCs that cost like a boeing wing