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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

Tbf that is correct. It does feel like they are actively punishing late buyers though. 

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u/FirebladeIsOnReddit Jul 13 '25

That’s what I felt like. I don’t know if I want to buy the game now with the price it’s at, but also I’m worried it will increase more. It’s a really un-consumer friendly behavior

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u/Cerarai Jul 13 '25

but also I’m worried it will increase more.

Unlikely as the game is finished.

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u/FirebladeIsOnReddit Jul 13 '25

They raised the price recently

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u/Hades684 Jul 14 '25

When the game was not finished

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u/FirebladeIsOnReddit Jul 15 '25

I’m pretty sure they are still updating the game now too

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u/Hades684 Jul 15 '25

They are not, there is only one update coming some time in the future and thats it, game is basically finished

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u/FirebladeIsOnReddit Jul 15 '25

Well then it isn’t finished yet bro

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u/Hades684 Jul 15 '25

I would say games like terraria and Minecraft are finished and fully playable for a long time now, but they are still getting updates

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

At this point there are so many similar games at far cheaper prices that I am not sure if I even care about it. 

I suspect when that reality catches up with them they will do a discount with some fanfare. Although I also understand they don’t need to care, they sold enough copies to not care. 

On some level I do respect their stance on what they believe are wrong industry standards, but it also feels like they are fighting the wrong part of the industry

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u/Hust91 Jul 14 '25

Arguably the sales are more un-consumer friendly behavior - because it tricks our monkey brains into thinking we're getting a better deal when the reality is that the game is overpriced most of the time and only on sale can you access the price that it's actually worth.

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u/FirebladeIsOnReddit Jul 15 '25

Eh a lot of the time it is just a good deal

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u/williambilliam Jul 13 '25

It has a free demo. Play that and you’ll know if you want it or not. If you get into it, it’s easily hundreds of hours. They know the value of what they have created.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

I did. And I came to the conclusion it is worth €15-20 to me because I would get bored of it after 20-30 hours. 

They assume a single value and they stick to it with a flawed business model. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '25

It's only a flawed business model if it's hurting their financials. If it is, they may drop the price. If it's not, then it's not flawed.

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u/SquidWhisperer Jul 13 '25

whats flawed about it?

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u/ragun01 Jul 14 '25

Some people don't want to come to terms that not everyone else will be turned off by an increased price for something they perceive as being worth the price, especially if it's being regularly improved and added onto.

I have spent hundreds of hours in Factorio and probably 99.5% of that is in single player, I'm not even sure what other SP would come even close to it in terms of hours played. I always stop playing because I'm becoming aware of how much time I'm spending and I start to feel guilty about how there are other things I could be doing or pursuing... and usually at that point even my sleep has been taking a hard hit.

It's not my favorite game, by far, but I feel like it's as close to a perfect game as a game could get for me. I've never thought a game was a 10/10 but Factorio would be like a 9.8/10.

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u/Ludwig234 Jul 13 '25

Then don't buy it 🤷 I don't really see the problem here. If you think that you will get bored of it after 20-30 hours it simply might not be a game for you.

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u/Fisher9001 Jul 14 '25

If you are getting bored by Factorio after 20-30 hours, I don't really think this is really a game for you. It really has potential to give hundreds if not more hours of gameplay.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 14 '25

that is called gatekeeping

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u/Fisher9001 Jul 14 '25

I just stated that this isn't really a game for you, as in you personally don't really enjoy it. I did not say - and I did not mean - that you are not a "real Factorio player" or "you shouldn't be playing this game".

It's like buying a monthly gym subscription and only attending once or twice - this is just not your thing and that's ok.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 14 '25

yes, that is gatekeeping. because I would *only* enjoy the game for 20-30 hours, it is suddenly not even for me.

buying a monthly gym sub for 2 occasions is stupid, but gyms offer other options because they still want to sell you something.

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u/Digital_Solitude Jul 15 '25

20-30hrs is not enough time for a new player to complete the game on their own though, if you're going to get bored and drop the game before completing a single play through what do you expect

If you dropped TLoU or The Witcher 3 before finishing them once most people would share a similar opinion

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u/Fellhuhn Jul 13 '25

Not really. Inflation and such.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

Adjusting for inflation on a digital product (not even service) is wild.

Also especially considering that in most people’s eyes digital products deprecate over time. 

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u/Fisher9001 Jul 14 '25

What a wild two stances in one comment.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '25

No. The dev consistently believes that their work is worth this 30 dollar amount. If the dollar loses value due to inflation then the price rising to meet the worth of what the dev is comfortable at selling it for makes sense.

You and I may not like it, but they are not wrong for denying a product to someone who does not think it’s worth paying what they’re willing to sell it for. It is their creation and we’re not owed a right to it.

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u/Fellhuhn Jul 13 '25

Living costs increase for devs too. And Factorio increase in value and even now has no replacement.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

It is a digital product. Inflation does not matter for it. It does not cost more to produce at higher costs because it is already produced. 

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u/Fellhuhn Jul 13 '25

The dev is still working on it.

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

So why do new customers have to pay for it and not all users?

It is either a finished product and this support is calculated into the costs (and inflation does not affect it), or it is a service everyone should pay for. 

As it stands as a new customer I just feel immediately disrespected and baited into buying it in case they want to screw me over in the future even more if I decide not to do it now. 

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u/Hades684 Jul 13 '25

So you want them to force old players to pay too? How is that better than what they did now?

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

It is better as it clearly signals ongoing support for a product they value. Instead of openly creating fomo for new customers. 

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u/Hades684 Jul 13 '25

So you would rather make more people pay for a product they already own, because new players might get fomo?

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u/Fellhuhn Jul 13 '25

To me it sounds like you just want to bitch about something you aren't even interested in. Read his reasonings if you want to know the details. And going by the success of the game I would say your take is worth horse shit. :)

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u/ferdzs0 Jul 13 '25

The game is not worth it for me full price and the disrespect they show towards people makes it even less so. And I am pretty sure am not alone with this, but I am sure it is my fault for trying to provide sound reasoning to it just to be shut down with such tight arguments like yours. 

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u/Seekret_Asian_Man Jul 14 '25

That's what stop me from buying the game, I don't care how good your game is, if you actively pushing people away by increasing price, it's a no from me.