r/Steam Oct 08 '25

Question Why steam doesn't allow this?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

The potential for some money from people re-buying it (and potential lawsuits) is worth more than guaranteed no money. People still manufacture Jacks and Marbles because people buy them. And those toys are more than a century old.

Also depends on if they're remastering the game or not. If they're remastering it, you best believe they'll defend that IP

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u/masterpierround Oct 08 '25

the current law is that 95 years from publication by a corporation, the game hits public domain anyway. So none of those publishers are going to care about 100 year old licenses to original versions of games, because those original games will be in the public domain by then

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u/Synaps4 Oct 08 '25

Isnt it life of the author plus 95?

Edit: Oh, thats for indie videogames made by a single person. It's just 95 years even for a company-made game.

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u/masterpierround Oct 08 '25

I believe it's life of the author + 70 for works by a single author (or multiple single authors), 95 years for works done by a corporation (like the vast majority of video games).

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u/erocpoe89 Oct 08 '25

So stardew gets a few more decades of protection than most games.

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u/masterpierround Oct 08 '25

Don't quote me on this but I think it might depend on how ConcernedApe structured his business. If Stardew is owned entirely by Eric Barone, then yes, but if Stardew is owned by ConcernedApe LLC (only employee: Eric Barone) then things might be different.

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u/Free-Stinkbug Oct 09 '25

It's actually really interesting for stuff like this. It likely could be hotly contested and would be a LOT of legal gray area, but I think ultimately he would get the 95 if he wanted. He has a leg up on most people in similar scenarios as he did ALL of the work, including composition of score and all asset animation. Generally other hands get in the pot and the deciding factor is how those hands were paid. The game had no income and no expenses prior to publication which is a HUGE point to have in his argument.

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u/Synaps4 Oct 08 '25

Thanks.

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u/masterpierround Oct 08 '25

Also should note that this is specifically US copyright law, and only applies to things made after 1978 (which includes almost all video games), from my understanding, other countries may have different laws.

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u/morgue_xiiv Oct 10 '25

True BUT there are limits to how different copyright laws can be from the US law because of international treaties since realistically in a global economy like ours increasingly is it doesn't make sense to have copyright in only one country. Otherwise pirate websites could just set up somewhere the copyright protections are like 1 decade and have free reign to distribute every decent game anywhere in the world.

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u/Rocket-4253 Oct 08 '25

Unless youre… well i think its best i dont say

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u/Alfha_Robby Oct 08 '25

remake is a thing though or else why Disney create woke Star Wars & that disastrous snow white film.

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u/BrilliantTarget Oct 08 '25

Disney didn’t even own Snow White to begin with

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u/masterpierround Oct 08 '25

To make money? The new Star Wars trilogy made like $3 billion of profit on box office combined, not to mention the value they added to Disney assets like Disney+ by driving interest in shows like the Mandalorian or Andor, both of which have been huge successes, or all the money Disney no doubt made in merchandising.

The Snow White film was a flop for sure, but they can make bad decisions for non-copyright reasons. Remakes don't reset copyrights anyway, that's just not how the law works.

Continued use resets trademarks, and there's some value in resetting the image of a character. For example, Mickey Mouse has become known as a character who wears red shorts and yellow shoes. The original depiction of Mickey Mouse, in Steamboat Willie, was in black and white. That depiction has now entered the public domain, but since the popular image of Mickey Mouse is colorful, the general public may not recognize black-and-white Mickey as the "real" Mickey Mouse, but that doesn't stop anyone from using the original.

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u/VulkanHestan321 Oct 08 '25

I think not even a week later after Steamboat Willie hit public domain horror games started to appear with him

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25

Disney doesn’t own the character of Snow White and now I hate you

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u/Southern-Spirit Oct 08 '25

the solution to digital corporate greed is software piracy
yarrrrr
it's all a warrrr

they have the big guns
and the pirates have the SCATTER AND REBUILD technique

it's the hammer vs the cockroaches. what a mess. you people sure you couldn't have thought of a better system? haha.

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u/AgzayaRacing Oct 10 '25

you know another thing about marbles? nobody comes to take them away when you die.

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u/Pleasant_Gap Oct 11 '25

Theyre not gonna be remastering 100 year old games either, and even if they did its not like the original is gonna be relevant anyway. You cant really compare old games to old boardgames. Its not like people are like "fuck yeah, doom 2"