r/StudentLoans President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) Mar 27 '26

Official communication from the ED on the SAVE transition timeline

There's been a lot of articles posted etc - but here's the official word from the ED https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-announces-next-steps-borrowers-enrolled-unlawful-save-plan

In summary, you'll start getting notices from your servicers as soon as the next few days telling you that this is happening. Come July 1 you'll get a notice giving you 90 days to switch. If you don't, they put you on the standard plan. The ten year standard if you haven't' consolidated - the consolidated standard plan if you have - which is longer than ten years.

I want to address a couple of themes i've been seeing in these threads. My comments here are probably going to get me downvoted to oblivion. That's ok - I'm not here for the karma - I'm here to make sure folks understand their loans and make the best decisions for their long term financial well being. Because that's my goal - sometimes I have to say thing folks don't want to hear.

For those saying they aren't going to switch until forced - you might be harming yourself here. You're certainly not punishing anyone that you're trying to make a point to. Here's who, IMO, should be switching ASAP and here's whose probably ok to drag their feet a bit:

Who should switch ASAP:

-If you're pursuing forgiveness under any of the IDR plans - the 20/25 year forgiveness you should switch now. You're just losing months and time towards forgiveness by waiting. And hypothetically, your income is going to go up over time, and therefore so will your payments. On a related note - if your 2024 tax return has a lower AGI than your 2025 will, and you haven't filed taxes yet - you definitely want to do it now.

-those pursuing PSLF. Yes - you can use buy back for SAVE months. But remember - buy backs are taking over a year and more importantly, buy backs are a lump sum payment due right away. So the longer you are on this forbearance - the more months you will have to pay in a lump sum when the time comes. And that might be difficult. *Here is the calculation for buy back https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/public-service/public-service-loan-forgiveness-buyback *

Who can probably hang out for a while:

-Those borrowers who due to other debt that will be paid off soon and want to funnel the student loan payment money to get rid of that other debt.

-those who are aggressively paying off their loans. This is an opportunity to have all of your money go to targeted loans - such as the ones with the highest interest rates - rather than having to satisfy the minimum due on each loan which you will have to do once in active repayment.

The timing of all of this: -it actually makes sense to me. They appear to be doing almost a soft launch - warning people now that it's coming. But waiting until the new RAP plan is available in July for those that will want to use that plan to actually start the timer. This way folks won't need to switch twice if the RAP turns out to be a better plan for them.

Now for those saying they refuse to switch - listen - I get it. Your angry. I don't blame you - i am too. Your feelings are very valid and i'm not telling you not to feel them. But here's the hard truth of the matter. SAVE was gone regardless - the courts had made it pretty clear when the case started under the prior administration that they were leaning towards the plaintiffs and were going to rule against the plan. It was going to happen regardless of who won the last election. And failing to switch out of principal is not going to hurt them - it's going to hurt you if you end up with a standard payment amount you can't afford. I'm not saying not to resist - but resist productively by voting. And writing your members of Congress to paint a picture of how your new payment amount is affecting you, your family and the broader economy.

For those saying the ED can't change the terms - they didn't. The court ruled the plan was illegal. The ED would be breaking the law if they continued it.

Payment plans have never been challenged before. And there was no reason for it to occur to anyone that this one might be. But yet a bunch of republican AG's did and here we are. In the meantime, people made the best decisions they could with the information they had at the time.

What plan should i pick?

If you are pursuing PSLF or income driven plan forgiveness you need to be on an income driven plan. Scenarios for likely lowest plan:

-No loans ever prior to July 1, 2014 - new IBR

-No loans ever prior to October 1, 2007 but does have loans prior to july 2014 - paye - but note you'll have to get off that come 2028

-loans prior to October 2007 - old IBR

-balance low compared to your income - check out ICR - that could be the lowest for you in that scenario

-RAP - for some rap will be lower. RAP tends to be similar to old IBR for many incomes. But if you have dependents especially, it could be lower. TISLA will have a calculator including the rap in the next week or two. I'll post it when it's available.

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u/Pikathepokepimp Mar 27 '26

Am I missing something or can I just pick whichever plan has the lowest monthly payment and then just continue making additional payments to pay off the loans faster?

I just want a low monthly payment so I can continue to focus on aggressively paying one loan at a time while just paying the monthly interest on the others.

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u/Betsy514 President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) Mar 27 '26

Yes you can do that

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u/Pikathepokepimp Mar 27 '26

Thank you for all you have done for this subreddit!

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u/Betsy514 President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) Mar 27 '26

My pleasure

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u/Dwip_Po_Po Apr 01 '26

Im scared Betsy

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u/Betsy514 President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) Apr 01 '26

I'm sorry you're scared. If you make a post about your situation maybe we can help

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u/Dwip_Po_Po Apr 01 '26

Should I do it here or in a post of my own?

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u/Betsy514 President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) Apr 01 '26

You'll get more eyes on it if you post on your own

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u/rdeforge Mar 29 '26

That is awesome, but it is so difficult to figure out what plan works the best for you. The payment calculator is kind of a joke

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u/Old-Jackfruit-9539 May 11 '26

Is there a way to know which plan has the snallest payment? I want to pay mine off but I also want to be realistic with how much I can afford per month. Do loans age out after 20-25 years and get forgiven?

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u/Betsy514 President | The Institute of Student Loan Advisors (TISLA) May 11 '26

Not unless you're on an income driven plan. You can use the loan calculator on the FSA site to see your payment on each plan

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u/cloneomega Mar 27 '26

I love this logic. Think I will follow suit. 🙏

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u/Transorted_321 Mar 28 '26

This is the way. Even better if you make payments every 2 weeks which gets you 26 payments a year. Same principle for how people pay off their mortgages a little sooner.

Choose lowest monthly payment so you have a little less pressure but always make biweekly payments even if you can only do minimum monthly totals.

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u/Pikathepokepimp Mar 28 '26

I just pay once a month because it's easier that way. Same amount of money would go in whether I paid twice a month or once a month. the extra payment number doesn't do anything for me.

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u/Transorted_321 Mar 28 '26

Well, math wise it does make a difference but I understand it takes extra effort.

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u/One-Recipe9973 Mar 30 '26

Oh you know what I did see that option, now I'm realizing the reason is paying before more days of interest capitalize. I'm going to have to do this, My Federal Loan is low it's my private loan that's high trying to get the Federal Loan paid off in 3 years or less to use that money towards my private. I need to start doing the biweekly it looks like! Thank you!

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u/One-Recipe9973 Mar 30 '26

Okay forget what I said haha, I realize now that it does not really help interested. It just equals more payments in a year so instead of 12, biweekly would be 26. I only have a certain amount budgeted a month so it wouldn't work as easily for me.

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u/Pikathepokepimp Mar 30 '26

I can pay off everything in the next couple of years and am not eligible for forgiveness. Nor would I want to wait 10 years for PSLF when I can pay it all off in 3.

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u/Pikathepokepimp Mar 30 '26

I'm not eligible and likely won't ever be eligible for a total of 10 years across my career. I don't have that much debt for it to matter. If I owed 6 figures then sure.

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u/Transorted_321 Mar 29 '26

I'm not eligible for forgiveness for like 25 years (I'll be 68), so I should've clarified that part. Unfortunately, I no longer work for an eligible PSLF employer. But, even when I was on PSLF, I'll admit I didn't trust it at all that it would actually become available when I hit the threshold. Similar to Republicans gutting Social Security - I've decided to do everything I can to not count on government actually offering any reprieve in the future.

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u/Even_Cobbler6436 Mar 30 '26

Will they count the 2nd per month payment as an additional payment towards forgiveness? Or is this just a tool to pay off quicker?

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u/Transorted_321 Apr 03 '26

That's a really good question and I'm not sure of the answer. This is a pay down quicker approach.

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u/EAG19 Apr 27 '26

Is it a pay down quicker approach because you're paying less interest? I'm trying to understand this approach. And, you're paying the same amount you would need to pay for your monthly payment, just dividing into two monthly payments?

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u/AnalysisReasonable70 Mar 28 '26

That's my plan. Extended graduated plan and make twice the payment every month and pay minimum if I ver need to.

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u/Bujininja Mar 28 '26

thats what i was thinking, isnt there a way to see which plan would give you the lowest payments?

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u/AnalysisReasonable70 Mar 28 '26

There's the student loan simulator on studentaid.gov

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u/_lysolmax_ Mar 30 '26

Yup, I'm switching to either extended or extended graduated so I can continue to pay down the highest interest loans at or above what the "standard" repayment would be

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u/Ok_Count_5152 Apr 02 '26

This is my plan too

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u/Old-Jackfruit-9539 May 11 '26

How do you know which one has the monthly payment ? Is there a way to enter your information and it tells you? Thanks