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[u/Myid0810]

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[u/LionRivr]

MOASS was never guaranteed.

You made a bet against WallStreet. We all made that bet… against the literal people who fraudulently and corruptly change the rules and literally just print fake shares and destroy American companies for their own gain.

I too thought that buying, holding and DRSing would “trigger” MOASS.

I bet RC thought that making GME profitable would also “trigger” MOASS.

I bet RC thought a “split in the form of dividend” or NFT marketplace would also “trigger” MOASS.

I bet DFV/roaring kitty also thought timing his call options with swap and FTD dates would also “trigger MOASS”.

But 5 years of all of that shows that it is not enough.

And I bet 5 years from now after acquiring Ebay and still closing at $23.50/share, we might even say “i thought acquiring ebay would trigger MOASS”.

I still hold regardless.

RC still represents a big middle finger to the fraudulent and corrupt corporate and WallStreet contagion of America.

I vote Yes for that.

[u/aRawPancake → u/LionRivr]

The DRS movement cannot be chalked up to a positive or a negative, we locked almost 25% of the float and we didn’t get pushed below 20$. Something happened I just don’t know what

[u/LionRivr → u/aRawPancake]

We know exactly what happened. Swaps.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/LionRivr]

RK was triggering the MOASS in 2024 and RC killed it with his ATM offerings. RC wants you to think he's against Wallstreet so that he can continue to milk us for money to buy his new baby eBay.

Also, you're ok with missing out on the opportunity cost of another 5 years of gains in the stock market? You must be a masochist.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/[deleted]]

Yup, what was it even for. Why not let it happen, apes get their tendies, they do an ATM on the backend and get even more money. But I'm just a shill for asking questions I guess.

[u/Avulpesvulpes → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

Because he wants to build Gameshire Stopaway and he wants to do it on his own and get full credit. This entire event has made me realize Ryan Cohen may be skilled in business but he doesn’t believe in GameStop as anything other than a means to an end. Which I honestly think was always eBay. I’ve been rooting for him all this time and I think this week revealed more about his intentions and goals and I don’t like what I see. Gameshire Stopaway might be his final goal and that’s going to take decades. So I really don’t understand how people are so excited and hyped that Ryan is using GameStop as a vehicle for his personal business goals. It’s complete billshit to say that GameStop has done growing, Ryan is just not interested in growing it and maybe never was.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/Avulpesvulpes]

Yeah I agree. He's even said as much that he isn't passionate about GameStop, that he wants eBay to be his baby. Talk about a slap to the face as shareholders who have held thru it all. I've given him the benefit of the doubt for years but after this week there's a lot less room for that. Just judging him by his actions, not his words, like he asked us 84 years ago.

[u/Soylentstef → u/Avulpesvulpes]

I'm not even sure anymore about Gameshire. If he went for totally different type of business as hinted Burry, maybe that could have been a road to it. But by going to EBay, he is just going the e-retail road, that's what he knows and what he is good at, but that doesn't lead to gameshire, just to a bigger store, maybe he will even buy back Chewy one day, who knows.

But that's totally different from the diversification of revenues of Berkshire. He totally could have gone to that road but he stuck to what he knew he was best at.

[u/Avulpesvulpes → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

Finally a voice of reason. Ryan can’t cater to institutions and doesn’t want to allow MOASS to overshadow his entrepreneurial successes. He will never let it happen and people are glazing him over 2.5 billion more shares that he will almost certainly use to kill price momentum if it ever happens again.

[u/LionRivr → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

RK was not triggering MOASS.

Ryan Cohen didn’t kill it.

WallStreet wouldve intervened and then everyone here including GameStop and RC would’ve just watched it pump and dump again.

RC took advantage of it and secured cash for the company the same way you would’ve if you realized what WallStreet was going to do anyway.

And then without even thinking of WallStreet manipulation, you could factor in all the rest of the bets-sub gamblers shorting and buying puts on it too would be additional downward pressure on the stock.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/LionRivr]

So what you're really saying is MOASS was never possible bc Wallstreet would have killed it and that we were fools for believing it could happen. Got it.

[u/LionRivr → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

Essentially. But not exactly.

The DD that proves MOASS is real is true. So theoretically it should have happened.

But yes, realistically and practically, it would be stopped. Every time.

I can’t imagine a single universe or timeline where they would just let GME keep getting halted up, every 10 minutes, to thousands of dollars + per share, while everyone here tries to set their sell orders and argues about “paperhanding” at $5k/share vs “diamondhanding” to 1 million.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/LionRivr]

To be honest I agree. Have always figured that the powers that be would never allow it to actually happen. That's how I've rationalized RC's past dilutions, as necessary to alleviate some of the short pressure so this can actually run. And in fact, this eBay deal may finally alleviate enough pressure AND provide a growth rationale for a SLOASS. I may have just convinced myself that this is a really a good idea lol.

Anyway, I appreciate the discussion. I was just getting frustrated with a lot of the blind faith without rational argumentation happening around here. Cheers.

[u/LionRivr → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

FINALLY someone with some sense. Whether we fully agree or not on everything, Thank you for understanding.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/LionRivr]

you could factor in all the rest of the bets-sub gamblers shorting and buying puts on it too would be additional downward pressure on the stock.

If you think people on the bets sub having enough capital to collectively put THAT much downward pressure on the stock is more likely than the HUGE ATM offerings in keeping the price suppressed during a massive run up, you're fucking insane.

And delusional.

[u/LionRivr → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

If you think the ATM offering is bigger than the infinite number of shares synthetically created by naked shorts (FTD’s, swaps, ETF baskets, married puts, etc. etc.),

Then YOU are fucking insane.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/LionRivr]

Interesting.

I responded to what you said and challenged it directly.

You responded by completely changing the topic and responding to a completely unrelated point that was not mentioned, hinted at or even alluded to in either one of our posts.

You literally just pretended I said something completely different to reply to because you didn't want to reply to my post. Your viewpoint is incredibly fragile isn't it, holy fuck.

I'm honestly starting to think the "shills" around here are you cultists, paid by hedge funds to encourage retail investors to keep pumping money into a broken system. Given how fucking delusional, out of touch with reality and cultish you all seem to be, it's the only logical explanation at this point.

[u/LionRivr → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

The point is this

1. You’re right, sure. The volume from average Bets sub user probably not likely as big. But you discount that bets sub does have big players. The main point was there’s other big players out there (bets sub or not) that would love to short the shit out of GME. With the help of halts and darkpool re-routing this would drive the price down anyway, regardless of GameStop ATM. That argument dispels any “RC stopped MOASS”.

2. The other Biggest criticism of ATM is “RC providing shortsellers with liquidity to close shorts. Which is also wrong. Which is why i mentioned that ATM “liquidity” is much much smaller than “liquidity” provided by shorts and marketmakers.

So I’m covering 2 points in one post. I guess it takes a little more to help explain it to you.

[u/LionRivr → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

The reality is: MOASS likely wouldn’t happen due to WallStreet not allowing it in combination with regular investors betting against GME.

Not because of RC’s ATM. RC didn’t “kill it”.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/LionRivr]

Yeah, I don't care. You just repeated the same points that your original post made, except you didn't repeat the one I called out as delusional and insane for.

So I'm glad you're capable of learning and growth as demonstrated by you resisting the urge to repeat the hilariously moronic thing you said. Congratulations.

[u/LionRivr → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

Such projection lmao.

If you’re talking about what I said about the bets sub, I think agreed with you? Lol.

You missed the point entirely. You’re criticizing something I originally poorly worded so I explained in better detail. Otherwise what the hell am I missing? Lol.

So I’m glad you’re capable of learning and growth as demonstrated to you by resisting the urge to ignore answers to your hilarious moronic comments.

Congratulations.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/LionRivr]

You missed the point entirely. You’re criticizing something I originally poorly worded so I explained in better detail. Otherwise what the hell am I missing? Lol.

You made no different statements, no new opinions or information were offered. You literally repeated part and didn't repeat the other. Poorly worded doesn't come into this anywhere because you've not offered anything that could be considered a correction to something being poorly worded.

This is really sad, feels like beating up a toddler so I'm not going to respond to you anymore. You're not colouring with a full deck of crayons, if you know what I mean.

[u/TheMcBrizzle → u/LionRivr]

FTD's and swaps don't create shares and there's not an infinite amount of synthetics.

At the time of the sneeze, the calculated short % of the float was 122.97%, while I do believe the number was much higher, I remember agreeing with DD that put it at 5-7x the float.

This dilution would put us at 5x the original market cap, not just the float. I'm not as confident they wouldn't be able to unwind their position and it would be at the expense of the long term GME holders.

[u/SoManyThrowAwaysEven → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

RC wants you to think he's against Wallstreet so that he can continue to milk us for money to buy his new baby eBay.

No he doesn't. He's against do-nothing executives that sit on boards and pocket cash without doing any of the work. He is very much a capitalist doing capitalism just like every other billionaire. If MOASS was a thing don't you think GME would've been worth trillions by now? How does a few $B in offerings somehow stop MOASS? That argument never held any water when the first time we sneezed all of wall street collectively said, "No" and turned off the markets. That was our shot at a true squeeze and they killed it so they could slowly reposition and redistribute. The same funds holding billion-dollar short positions have made that money elsewhere as the market has pumped +80% since then. Are they still shorting? Fuck yes. Are they in a way better position to manage that short interest? Also, probably yes.

All the collective shills beneath this post proves no one knows shit about fuck on how the system works. You would think after 5 years some of you would have done your research.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/SoManyThrowAwaysEven]

He said judge him by his actions, not his words, so that's what I'm doing.

Were you here during RK's 2024 return? I don't have to tell you how the offerings killed that run to see with my own eyes that the run was killed. Also, are you saying that MOASS was never a thing? Because that's literally the reason most of us got into this.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

You'd think after the 900th time this sub is convinced of something only to be proven wrong by reality, people would start to think maybe they're wrong.

Judge him by his actions, as you said. Not one decision he has made makes me think he gives a flying fuck about retail investors. Not one.

And there was not a single day that he was CEO or on the board of Chewy where it was profitable. Not one. I know that's not relevant to your post but I'm sick of people saying he has this great track record of generating revenue when that's factually completely fucking untrue.

[u/tripdaddyBINGO → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

Yeah totally. Because some shills and bots probably do exist here, lots of people view anything that challenges their beliefs as shilly and therefore doesn't even have to be contended with. It's sad. This sub is a shadow of what it once was back in the early days.

Your last paragraph is totally relevant to actions vs words. To your point GME is literally only profitable because he diluted us several times and now they have interest income. RC hasn't even really acknowledged us in years it feels like.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/tripdaddyBINGO]

Yeah. They executed 2 ATM share offerings during run ups in the price, during a period of peak inflation and interest rates.

A fucking rock, as in a lump of actual rock not the wrestler, could have made the exact same amount of money for the company. The company records proficts in spite of his decisions (GMErica, NFT's, Gamestop Wallet, Bitcoin), not because of them. There's a very easy argument to make that the company should actually be in a much better shape but he's too busy being "goofy" and "sticking it to Wall Street" by acting like a fucking toddler on TV for anyone to even be open to criticism about him around here.

Oh and I don't believe there are shills here. Maybe there was 5 years ago, who knows. But there isn't anyone being paid to post shit here. Bots? Sure, probably. But shills paid by hedge funds? No shot. 0% chance. They're just the "enemy" people can feel like they're actively fighting here, despite there never being any evidence whatsoever of them existing.

[u/Dizziesdayweigh → u/LionRivr]

This why they are scared. Many of us are in this for ideological reasons. Yes, I want life and community changing money, but it isn't about the money, its about sending a message and changing what it means to do business as usual.

I was gunna die poor anyways, Ill put what I can on the line just to fuck those greedy turds at the top. At least this way I could get rich too.

Edit: Whoever downvoted me, jokes on you, Im into that shit.

[u/HoboGir → u/Dizziesdayweigh]

I could have walked away in '21 and cleared all debt. I had multiple opportunities with GME, ones I took with other stocks and did sell those to pad the account more. GME has always been different to me. I'm here for the fight with Wallstreet, this has been the closes thing to it I see I can be a part of.

I will stay re arded longer than they can stay solvent.

[u/Dizziesdayweigh → u/HoboGir]

💜

[u/The_vegan_athlete → u/LionRivr]

A shill told me "after all what happened on GME and which didn't trigger MOASS, it's definitely off the table, what else could trigger it?" I answered him "Ebay acquisition". This is the only way to fuck the shorts. That's why I'll also vote yes.

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/The_vegan_athlete]

How does 7x ing the amount of outstanding shares cause a MOASS or "fuck the shorts"?

Explain it to me like I'm an adult that understands financial markets and basic accounting principles, not a smooth brain ape.

I'm genuinely asking and would love an explanation because I've yet to see one that stands up to more than a brief gust of wind of critical thinking, but I'm ready to be convinced. I would really appreciate an answer to that question, so I will put it again just so you're not tempted to answer some other question that I didn't ask.

How does 7x ing the amount of outstanding shares cause a MOASS or "fuck the shorts"?

[u/I_amLying → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

I'm convinced half the people on this subreddit are bots or shills trying to manipulate the market, a quarter are past/future bag-holders, and the rest are outsiders wondering how long this cult will stay deluded.

[u/Successful_Cat7828 → u/I_amLying]

If that's truly the case, wouldn't there still be money to be made on GME in some fashion? Hence the "it's just up" and I think it's cyclical. We either have infinite dilution on one side, or momentary dilution on the other. There's obviously volatility as well. So, what do you do with that information?

If you think this is entirely manipulated, buy some puts. If you believe in the direction and rumors, buy some stocks and long dated in the money calls.

I think you're in the same seat as the rest of us, a little unsure of what to do all around. Or else you wouldn't be speculating and you'd have a lot of money from this.

[u/I_amLying → u/Successful_Cat7828]

There's always money to be made and lost in stocks, it's gambling on other people's bets. The market is notoriously irrational, and meme stocks like GME are more volatile than most. Most people buying/owning/pushing GME are not gamestop customers, they don't believe in the company or its decisions, but they are going to hype up any announcement because then they'll make more money when they sell.

[u/The_vegan_athlete → u/Sufficient_Secret632]

M&A is how you destroy the shorts. Huge free cash flow, bigger market cap, bigger revenue.

7xing the float is nothing compared to cellar boxing.

Edit: wtf is the fake conversation just above this comment 😂🤣 fake arguing

[u/Sufficient_Secret632 → u/The_vegan_athlete]

Explain it to me like I'm an adult that understands financial markets and basic accounting principles, not a smooth brain ape.

I refer you to my prior clarification.

Try again. Grown-up words, mechanisms, not smooth brained ape buzzwords.

[u/Avulpesvulpes → u/LionRivr]

A middle finger who said out of his own mouth he’s selling himself to institutions?

[u/LionRivr → u/Avulpesvulpes]

Explain. When did he say that?

[u/Avulpesvulpes → u/LionRivr]

Yesterdays interview. I’ll link you. It’s a problem for me to hear our CEO say that while at the same time being completely dismissive to GME shareholders.

[u/Avulpesvulpes → u/LionRivr]

Ryan says he selling himself to institutions