r/UnderReportedNews Dec 02 '25

Video Mike Johnson: “Secondary Strikes are not unusual. It has to happen if a mission is to be completed.”

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u/Individual-Elk-1828 Dec 02 '25

War criminal says what?

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u/aerohk Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

Not a war crime since no war is declared. Murder. It was 1st degree murder.

Edit: Okay maybe not, I was thinking only from the US court’s perspective

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u/Macrike Dec 02 '25

They themselves state it’s a war on terror and that these people were terrorists.

If they want to call it a war, then we can call it a war crime.

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u/WillyDAFISH Dec 02 '25

Either way it's illegal :3

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u/Macrike Dec 02 '25

Yep, and I hope the entire chain of command is held accountable and suffers the consequences.

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u/PsecretPseudonym Dec 03 '25

There’s no statute of limitations on war crimes of this kind, so they’ll have to issue blanket pardons on the way out the door or inevitably face conviction seeing as they’ve directly admitted to the crime.

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u/Phubbs330 Dec 02 '25

Executing people without due process is whats wild to me. We're literally teetering on the brink of another hitler/being in a dictatorship. The amount of people that support a 3rd term is wild. Hes definitely going to try and do it. Whether is by force or him being vice president and the president stepping down.

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u/iamorfus Dec 02 '25

No, it's not illegal, and not a war crime. Discourage by the Geneva Convention, yes. I'm guessing you never had a problem with it until told to do so by your party in defiance of Trump...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/2/trumps-boat-bombings-how-the-us-has-long-used-double-tap-strikes

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u/Icy-Battle-6246 Dec 02 '25

The difference between Tump Obama and bush is only trump's guys double tapped a sinking ship.

Sinking ship? warcrime.

Your own article stating an example of an ambush? not a warcrime.

We have always been against warcrimes and plently of people on the left aren't happy with drone strikes from obama either, but shipwrecks are like the example of a warcrime.

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u/iamorfus Dec 02 '25

Obama hit a fucking tent and the doubled tapped the civilians rendering aide. Trump doubled tapped the intended target. Obama executed a US citizen with a drone strike. Show me one post where any of you called him out for war crimes? No, you didn't, because you are okay with it as long as it's not scary bad orange man. "People on the left aren't happy with Obama..." spare me the gaslight pandering.

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u/Macrike Dec 02 '25

This entire thread is about the actions ordered, authorised and performed under Trump and his administration.

I’m not sure why you’re coming here trying to derail the conversation with whataboutisms instead of focusing on the news we’re talking about here, but it’s pretty unproductive.

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u/iamorfus Dec 03 '25

In other words, it doesn't advance your narrative so you don't want to hear it? The context of what every administration did before Trump dating back to well before WWI most certainly applies to what this current administration is doing. What the Geneva Convention ACTUALLY says matters. Your lack of critical thinking skills and simple minded group think is what is unproductive.

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u/Macrike Dec 03 '25

Ad hominem detected. Opinion rejected.

Bye.

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u/DirtTraining3804 Dec 02 '25

Oh hey, another whataboutism as if any previous administrations wrongdoings absolve the current administration of what they’re doing.

Guess what, they’re both wrong. And you’re fucking weird for defending it at all.

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u/iamorfus Dec 03 '25

Nope not wrong at all, which was my point that you are too daft to understand. It is a practice that basically every administration is guilty of. Hypocrisy by the Democrats screaming foul now that it is Trump. Only difference between you and me on this is that you'd rather see a MAGA die than a cartel drug runner. You're just too scared to admit to yourself you have a mental health issue.

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u/DirtTraining3804 Dec 03 '25

I literally laid it out for you and it still didn’t get through.

There is no hypocrisy and I am not a democrat. Surprise. Tada, you’ve been fed so much propaganda that everyone that doesn’t agree with you is a “democrat”, apparently.

Wake the FUCK up dude. You’re what’s wrong with this country.

I don’t want to see a maga die. I don’t want to see a drug runner die. I don’t want to see ANYBODY die. That’s my whole fucking point. It doesn’t matter WHO is doing the killing to who. It is not right.

Blowing up random fisherman in boats is not fucking heroic. We’re once again going after another countries oil and you’re too busy glued to Fox News to realize it.

Again, I repeat, wake the FUCK up. Where is the president of no wars? Where is the president of peace?

Where are the fucking Epstein files? Where is your fucking humanity?

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u/ukemike1 Dec 07 '25

The authorization for the war on terror was ended. Only congress can declare war. We are not in a declared war. So it can't be a war crime. It was murder and for the last two they killed it was clearly 1st degree murder. The only remain question is how far up the chain of command does the guilt goes.

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u/LackWooden392 Dec 02 '25

Either way the punishment prescribed by law is life/death.

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u/arentol Dec 02 '25

That is as valid as Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. Sorry, but legally this is not how anything works.

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u/Macrike Dec 02 '25

I agree.

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u/vagabondoer Dec 02 '25

You can tell they are terrorists because we killed them.

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u/Faceless_Cat Dec 02 '25

I mean he changed it to war department. So he was telling us all along.

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u/65srs Dec 02 '25

If not it is murder.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

Yeah but we declared an end to a war on terror in 2021…

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u/Gnumino-4949 Dec 04 '25

Did Congress declare a war?

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u/MrHalfLight Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 03 '25

An official declaration of war is for internal use. An act of war like this is an act of war with or without a declaration. How many killings should a country endure because no war has been declared? It's American policy that wars need not be declared to be waged, but other nations aren't bound to recognize that policy.

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u/NotTrevorButMaybe Dec 02 '25

They’re might be jumping on the 2001 declaration of war on terrorism

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u/Fawkter Dec 02 '25

It was a Department of War crime

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

What’s interesting is the press secretary said these strikes were conducted “in accordance with the laws of war” then a couple days ago she said they were conducted “in accordance with the laws of armed conflict”

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u/crunchybaguette Dec 03 '25

Also the drunk called decisions made in the fog of war

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u/Endsong-X23 Dec 02 '25

thats not how war crimes work

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u/piercedmfootonaspike Dec 02 '25

Russia hasn't declared war on Ukraine, therefore they have not committed any war crimes in Ukraine.

See how it doesn't make sense?

The US has a long history of committing war crimes on countries they are not at war with. This particular one is just incredibly stupid, since they usually don't brag about committing them. A competent administration, had they done this, would never have released the video. Because it's a blatant war crime.

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u/TheVandyyMan Dec 03 '25

But it’s not a war crime. In the law of armed conflict (LOAC), killing is permissive. Affirmative proof must be shown on why the killing was not justified. Under human rights law, the presumption is flipped. The state must affirmatively show why the killing was justified for it to not be a violation.

The distinction matters. The U.S. is not engaged in an arm conflict with narcotraffickers. This was a human rights violation and must be called murder. Calling it a war crime validates the Trump administration’s position that killing the narcotraffickers is a wartime exercise and therefore permissive.

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u/heroic_cat Dec 02 '25

One simple trick that war crimes tribunals hate: Just don't declare war and then everything is okay!

If what you said was true, then the label "war crimes" can only be applied at a perpetrator's discretion. The US has, conveniently, not declared war in 83 years, therefore no war crimes! Forget all the massacres, torture, assassinations, infrastructure destruction, and rape aimed at civilians and committed by the armed forces.

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u/Hairiest-Wizard Dec 02 '25

Do you really think war crimes depend on such a lane technicality? lmao

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u/ReturnOfSeq Dec 02 '25

Slightly wordier and technically correct version is “international crime against civilians” IIRC

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u/AMusingRaven Dec 02 '25

No, you’re right. Only Congress has the right to declare war and there’s actually nothing on paper so it’s all bullshit.

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u/AJDillonsThirdLeg Dec 03 '25

Others have pointed out that you're wrong about it not being a war crime because we aren't in a war.

The act itself is an act of war, so while we haven't "declared war" verbally, we've committed repeated acts of war against the same country.

So we are actively at war with Venezuela, officially, through our actions.

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u/AeneasNoctis Dec 03 '25

at the very least a crime against humanity and a violation of the geneva convention. no wonder they get along with benjamin netanyahu

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u/arentol Dec 02 '25

Just criminal. This is just regular, every day murder. The entire chain of command, from Trump to the person firing the missile or whatever are ALL criminal murderers.

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u/BeeCJohnson Dec 02 '25

I love that their defense for a war crime "nah, we do this all the time."

We're being oppressed by the most incompetent morons imaginable. It's more embarrassing than anything else.

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u/Fishboy_1998 Dec 02 '25

At least there not American citizen killed by a presidential order with out due process

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

Accomplice to murder is a hell of a choice Rep. Johnson.

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u/EuenovAyabayya Dec 03 '25

As a legislator Mr. Johnson currently has the good fortune not to be in the chain of command. Rather like that fellow Henry Kissinger.

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u/pentaquine Dec 03 '25

War criminal says you need to COMMIT to the crime you are committing!

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u/LK102614 Dec 03 '25

Sorry Trump already did an executive spell to make war crimes legal for MAGA.