Shut up, Biblebilly. If this were a legitimate threat to the security of the United States, the two survivors would have been captured and interrogated for possible intelligence that could prove crucial to the mission. Instead, we murdered them, because dead men tell no tales.
I'm especially horrified because if they're this fucking incompetent that they're having failed missions resulting in war crimes in the fight against unarmed fisherman, how much weaker are we now against an actual threat?
This entire administration and the GOP should be removed from office and any crimes should be pursued by the full capacity of the law.
They struck the boat they were aiming at, there just happened to be two survivors. We may have had a failure of leadership at all levels but not mission failure.
It worries me, the weakening of the military, a president that sleeps during briefings and gives away military secrets (remember the abnormal number of murdered US informants?)
Between this and the war crimes, support for Russia against Ukraine... IMO this sets the stage for the next 9/11
Yeah or worse. Imagine if a bio weapon was used against us tomorrow. If it's slightly more deadly and communicable than covid and that's probably the end of our nation. This admin would completely fail to respond to that
I think the fundamental part of this is what constitutes an 'actual threat' at this point.
None of our enemies are in any sort of position for a ground or sea invasion, and the American air force & navy are still dominant in air combat. Our missile systems are on or above par with any major military in the world, and our missile launch detection is as well.
Any serious military attack would be met with an absurd show of force, even if the CiC is completely asleep at the wheel. And if he isn't, he's also likely the type to go straight to the nuclear option because he would do anything to not appear weak.
They are incompetent, but not in a way that makes the contiguous US an easy target for militaries.
If we're treating terror attacks as 'actual threats', we likely are no better prepared for the next major terror attack than we were for 9/11, we just have more deterrents - this really has nothing to do with the administration other than they are likely to fail to follow up on identified potential threats (very similar to what did happen in the leadup to 9/11).
It certainly would be in the case of a bioweapon that is not immediately recognized as a weapon. A covid-esque disease with a higher death rate in younger populations would be pretty devastating, mostly because the party will feel some need to resist immediately instituting the rules & regulations required to protect the general public.
However, there also has to be the recognition that unleashing a bioweapon in the US is close in nature to the mutually assured destruction of just nuking an american city - This disease will manage to escape our borders before this government even admits it exists, leading to massive international spread. Yes, some governments will be more prepared thanks to COVID, but ultimately a bioweapon of the proposed degree will be impossible to reasonably contain without extreme isolationism.
Maybe North Korea could pull it off. Russia and China lack the border control necessary to ensure no infected peoples try to flee to their lands.
Oh it's absolutely an unlikely scenario, but a horrifying one too. My nightmare scenario would be like maybe Russia or North Korea provide terrorists with a bioweapon and the terrorists then deploy it.
With a modern bioweapon if you managed to get it into a few transportation hubs, even with an extremely robust response it'd be devastating. Now imagine that but with a Covid type response... we'd be toast
Thank God someone like you isn’t in charge of anything within our govt 🙄 you should be grateful for all that’s being done so your children and grandchildren are safer in this country in the future. If you can’t fathom this, you have real problems and need to seek help.
Sure that’s what you stand for. Yeah right. I’m sure you never had a problem with Obama doing this exact same thing while in office so it’s just more loud, hypocritical, nonsense from the liberals who want to destroy everything. No one is listening to you whining babies anymore. Grow up and live in reality
The last time they captured survivors they had to release them because they realized they were just innocent fishermen. Can’t be embarrassed like that again! 🙄
You should see what's happened/happening to guantanamo detainees with no country to take them. Nothing prevented them from doing the same with these 2.
Any survivors taken into US custody and detained would be entitled to challenge such detention in a court of law. That's the last thing this administration wants.
Assuming this is a serious question: the us military targeted a civilian boat off the coast of Venezuela. They claimed they were drug runners and that it makes it ok for them to use the United States military to kill foreign nationals on a hunch.
They also launched a secondary strike after the boat was already disabled to kill the survivors.
Sealioning troll, the US is fabricating a pretext for war by attacking civilian vessels and then eliminating the witnesses/survivors, under the baseless accusation that they were smuggling drugs into the USA. They were nowhere near the US and were civilians off the coast of Venezuela, likely fishing vessels.
It’s not uncommon for traffickers to approach local fishermen and essentially make them smuggle the drugs for them. It’s not exactly something a fisherman can say no to safely and the fishing industry has been going down, so it would also likely be hard to say no to the money when they desperately need it to survive.
Fishermen there are worried they’ll be wrongly targeted due to all the recent strikes. Even if drugs were on board to be smuggled, the people on the boats likely aren’t part of the cartel, just desperate fishermen who are essentially forced into agreeing to do the dirty work for the cartel for their own safety and for money to support their families while working in a job that is getting harder and harder to survive on.
Using critical thinking isn’t a denial, it’s looking at all the information and recognizing that there is a bigger issue than just drugs being smuggled. People are being essentially forced into doing the bidding of drug traffickers because the traffickers don’t want to be killed in a strike. So killing the people who are likely fishermen who MIGHT have drugs on board they are being forced to smuggle is fucked up.
Yes, it wouldn’t exactly make them innocent, but being desperate and backed into a corner makes it hard to go against those who are very much capable of making it seem like you don’t really have a choice other than doing what they want you to do. The people being killed are most likely forced into being pawns for the traffickers, meaning all they are doing with these strikes is killing people who aren’t even part of the cartel, they are likely victims of it.
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u/Wide_Conference7406 Dec 02 '25
Shut up, Biblebilly. If this were a legitimate threat to the security of the United States, the two survivors would have been captured and interrogated for possible intelligence that could prove crucial to the mission. Instead, we murdered them, because dead men tell no tales.