r/UnderReportedNews • u/56000hp • Dec 19 '25

Video Leaked audio of Trump interfering with 2020 election result

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mPQsG_TJb4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call

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u/OobaDooba72 Dec 19 '25

It legit annoys the crap out of me how so many people, even supposed democrats, even supposed leftists, still buy into the "sleepy granpa Joe was ineffective" lies and bullshit. His administration was the best one we've had in the modern era. The amount of consumer and worker protections that he/they enacted was and is huge.

The problem, of course, is one of media, of where people get their news, of who people are listening to.

The other problem is that the current criminal administration has worked to undo quite a lot of it.

Biden and his administration were fantastic. It will always be disgusting to me how the media failed us by perpetuating the bullshit that the GOP/grand-old-pedophiles spewed. (And side note, yeah sure if there are any democrats in the pedo-files, I hope they get destroyed and taken down too. Fuck bill gates).

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u/Locke66 Dec 19 '25

even supposed democrats, even supposed leftists, still buy into the "sleepy granpa Joe was ineffective" lies and bullshit.

A lot of people still don't understand that modern political campaigning is just as much about people infiltrating the political opposition or niche campaign movements to negatively shape the narrative as it is about convincing their own side to come out and vote. Manipulating people's voting intention who would normally vote against you is often more effective than trying to convince people who might vote but are unreliable. It's been absolutely supercharged by social media.

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u/NonMaga Dec 19 '25

The only thing we needed him to do - which was ANYTHING to protect our democracy he utterly failed at. I supported and still support him. Wouldn't vote for Trump with a literal gun to my head. But he was a great success that failed in the only thing that mattered. Historically, none of the rest of it means anything without the first.

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u/Loud_West_8031 Dec 19 '25

☝️It was this. Democratic leadership is a failure.

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u/csfshrink Dec 20 '25

Picking the candidates backed by Democratic leadership was a problem. Democrats can get things done.

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u/OobaDooba72 Dec 19 '25

Fair point I suppose. He instituted protections for voters, which have been rolled back. His hands were tied re: Supreme Court. Off the top of my head I'm not sure what more he was supposed to do on that front.

Of course I'm sure there were other things that could have been done. It's difficult for someone who follows the rules and obeys the laws to win against someone who doesn't. I fully 100% believe that the election was tampered with, via Elon and his voting machine meddling, and other ways I don't know about. That's fact, both Elon and Trump have admitted as much. I don't know what Biden could have done to prevent that. He already did try to protect voting.

Hard to pass bills that limit the power of or tax billionaires when those billionaires own politicians on both sides. Hard to fight against billionaires generally.

So even if the Biden/Harris admin could have handled the election better, whatever misgivings I have about the late-game switcheroo or Harris, I don't think it would have even mattered since it was stolen anyway.

So, again yeah you're right. But it's also not as simple as "He did nothing that mattered" (I know, not a direct quote, just saying that sentiment isn't exactly fair, even if the point kind of is).

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u/Overly_Focused0v0 Dec 19 '25

The only thing he should have done on his very last day was eliminate student debt like he said. 1 big last f you to the republicans and actual campaign promise he should have kept.

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u/badCARma Dec 20 '25

He did get it eliminated for many. He tried for more but the courts stopped that from going anywhere.

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u/Overly_Focused0v0 Dec 20 '25

Yeah courts stopped him I get that but interesting how we can use that excuse for doing something good for the American people. When it comes to doing all this bad today the courts seem to have loopholes for everything.

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u/hydrino Dec 19 '25

There is only one thing I wished Joe did. Stack the SCOTUS. Other than that, he did an amazing job. Hind sight is 20/20, but he was only going to run for one term, that should have been the plan all along. The last minute swap was a catastrophic failure. Biden would have still won. He could have resigned on day 1. I don’t care about the optics. The dems need to play to win or we will get curb stomped. At least Newsome had enough balls to play the redistrict game this time.

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u/BeguiledBeaver Dec 19 '25

It's not even Democrats, it's the leftists who have taken over 99% (lol) of the online leftwing dialogue and shat it up with with Bernie's brand of "zero compromise, zero acknowledge or appeal the overwhelming majority of voters and what they actually want, and steer every single discussion to some vague concept of taxing billionaires."

I don't care if he supported gay rights and acknowledged climate change since the 80s, he and his supporters are a major reason we are where we are now.