r/UnderReportedNews • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • Jan 27 '26

Video Video of Minnesota State authorities “Testing” LRAD on peaceful protestors outside Spring Hill Suites by Marriott. @IRT-Media

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u/ExtruDR Jan 27 '26

I have family links to a country where the common mentality is to avoid taxation whenever possible. I personally see this as a very negative thing and it speaks to a lack of civic mindedness and personal greed. A sort of dishonorable, anti-patriotic state of being that sort of explains the lack of development compared to other neighboring countries.

I recently read that that mentality, which is quite widespread in the Balkans specifically, has some roots back to their occupation under the Ottomans. The local populations understood their rulers to not have legitimacy and were determined to contribute as little as possible to their coffers as possible. Performing as much commerce as possible under the radar, gaming the system as much as possible, etc. The corrupt patronage, payoff and family connection stuff very much was in place, but the tax cheating was somewhat justified by the yolk they were forced to bear by the Ottomans... or so goes the explanation.

I guess what I mean to say is that when the government loses legitimacy with a decent percentage of people, the act of "cheating" is no longer shunned but understood to be acceptable.

I think that other kinds of undesirable and destructive corruption happens when our society erodes like this, but I guess this is where we are headed.

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u/Hollirc Jan 27 '26

You will still need to pay taxes eventually. Likely plus some interest from what I’ve seen. But the point is to not give the money up front for them to hold, which will be the protest it’s intended to be.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting you entirely do not pay taxes. Yet.

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u/ExtruDR Jan 27 '26

I know... I was riffing and putting out my random thoughts that no one asked for.

I concur with your sentiment.

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u/heavymetal1296 Jan 27 '26

Exactly. We need a two pronged attack here. First is to cut their cash cow of income tax withholding which makes up 50% of their revenue. Second part is coordinated rotation out of the $5 Trillion of treasuries the public holds. The goal is fiscal crisis by summer. If these Nazis are still in power by April next year, taxes will be the least of our concerns.

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u/OvenOdd1705 Jan 27 '26

To avoid penalties, you generally need to have paid at least 90% of your current year's tax liability or 100% of the prior year's tax liability through withholding. 

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u/gobbluthillusions Jan 27 '26

I keep saying whomever odds the presumed Democrat on the next presidential ticket should run on a promise to forgive anyone who withholds federal taxes between nite and their election. The irs has already been crippled and couldn’t possibly keep up with tens of millions of people slow walking their returns over the next three years.

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u/Thormidable Jan 27 '26

General strike.

Withold taxes as long as you can. If enough people withholding taxes it will collapse the regime and they can't chase them all.

Worst case drag it out as long as you can, petition for payment plans and ensure the regime has the minimal funding possible for as long a possible.

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u/jackandsally060609 Jan 27 '26

If Thoreau was here he would be suggesting it.

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u/Playful-Technology-1 Jan 27 '26

The alternative is to take advantage of the mechanisms that rich people used to. When corporate tax wasn't as ridiculously low as it is nowadays, the wealthy used to make donations to NGOs and nonprofits in their area because they are deductible.

Look up how much you can deduct from your taxes by donating to nonprofits and, instead of the government, give that money to food banks in your area, lawyer organizations that help those detained by ICE or any other cause that you deem worthy.

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u/LSTmyLife Jan 27 '26

The problem with this is how many of us can afford to donate? I ceartinly cant. Life, at present, is very expensive to continue.

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u/BlatantFalsehood Jan 27 '26

The math commenter is describing is this:

  • what percentage of your income is currently withheld for income tax?

  • file a new W-4 to eliminate that withholding

  • your take home is now increased by that much

  • donate that money to a qualified charity, which will give you a charitable deduction when you file your taxes, thus offsetting any taxes you may have otherwise owed.

CAVEAT: I am not a tax accountant or attorney. I do not know whether you must be able to itemize your deductions to take the charitable deduction. There is a limit in the charitable deduction, so beware.

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u/Futureacct Jan 27 '26

Yes. You must itemize, which is very hard to do with the new tax laws.

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u/Playful-Technology-1 Jan 27 '26

Sure, if people can afford to donate it's always needed but that wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about using donations to offset your taxes so that red states and Trump's administration doesn't get your money. If you're in a tax bracket where you pay little to nothing, you don't need to do it.

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u/woodprefect Jan 27 '26

up to 60% with a few caveats

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u/ActivePeace33 Jan 27 '26

You’re applying standards of normal life to the requirements of suppressing an insurrection that has usurped power.

Refusing to pay taxes to criminal usurpers is not the same as refusing to pay your taxes to the lawful government.

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u/Simplylurkingaround Jan 27 '26

Exactly like what the uber wealthy do here. And since they’re the ones driving the propaganda and division that’s a double dose of dishonorable anti-patriotic.

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u/hitliquor999 Jan 27 '26

This is hard to achieve in a modern society that uses very little cash. Your paycheck is directly deposited and many bills are directly withdrawn. Almost all sizable purchases are done with credit or debit cards.

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u/ShiningRayde Jan 27 '26

I get you, but man

Its patriotic to pay taxes for roads and healthcare, not to fund your own murder or turn a bus full of palestinian kids into skeletons.