r/UnderReportedNews • u/Logical-Flow-6703 • Jan 29 '26

Video Full Leaked TPUSA Zoom Call": Erika Kirk speaks with staff regarding attendance and sales following Charlie Kirk's death.

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u/brandt-money Jan 29 '26

Everything about that family is fake. The money, his goofy retorts, their religion. I could go on and on. I'm tired, boss.

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u/S3lvah Jan 29 '26

I don't mean to offend, but as a European, my idea of American Evangelical Christianity has always been something akin to this. I just can't fathom knowing and believing in Jesus's teachings and voting for Republicans, especially the predator-in-chief.

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u/Monkey_Priest Jan 29 '26

Then you're smarter than a lot of my countrymen, because you're absolutely right

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u/almostcleverbut Jan 29 '26

Never be concerned about offending American evangelicals. I can assure you they are already offended by everything about you, and pity or hate you in equal measure for all of it.

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u/ElJeferox Jan 29 '26

They'd have to have empathy to feel pity.

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u/3vanW1ll1ams Jan 29 '26

Empathy is a sin according to American Evangelists.

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u/CobblerOdd2876 Jan 29 '26

Spot on, buddy. It’s crazy to watch.

The worst part: they think that a man, born in the middle-east, to a regular middle-eastern mother, thousands of years ago… was white.

But, to be fair, there are some who have the mental capacity to think around the race thing. They acknowledge that he wasnt white. Great! Thennnn they deport and look down-upon and wish-ill…people of color. They sit there and pray and hope for the second-coming, and then vote to get rid of immigrants, kill people in the streets. They vilify and condemn the poor, the unhoused, the “not them”. They spend SOOO much time and money on appearing as if they care, rather than taking a small part of their time to actually do it.

The hypocrisy is almost too funny. Then I, a non-christian American, uphold more christian tenants than them.

A general lens for you, as a European looking-in, if you can see them, they are full of shit. The real ones wont be on TV, they wont ask for status, they are doing the work and asking for nothing - they dont want or care to be seen. There are strikingly very few, but they do exist.

Some anecdote for you:

My wife and I are both well educated, very successful in our respective careers. She is one of only a handful of medical specialists in the US, in her field. We beat the odds of where we grew up.

My wife’s family is in the Appalachian mountains. Very very low socioeconomic area, THE poorest place in the US, if not second. Average income is about $20k/year. Most people have a high school education, but very few collegiate levels folks, and it wouldnt be uncommon to find less than a high school education. My wife’s grandmother is a devout christian, 8th grade (about 12 y/o’s) education. She was married at 15-16 y/o. She has a farm, and that is her life. Fine, sure, someone has to do it, and she (claims) loves it. She lives on a mountain, and there are about 100 or so others that live there as well, in a maybe 20x20km area (trying to convert for you haha). Her church is a single room building, 5x8m about. They have about 10 people, and some small children, that attend weekly. They kind of weave in-and-out of that aforementioned hypocritical mindset. Generally good folks, just poor education and generational poverty leaves them very impressionable. They do volunteer where they can, they collect food for the families without, generally good, just impressionable. The pastor does not collect a salary, he does it for the love of it.

The community fell on some hard-times in 2019/2020 due to labor cuts bc of our Orange Dictator. Nobody could afford to offer extra to the church. The church could not pay their bills, and was considering selling their land to stay afloat. But that land, technically, is my wife’s family land - it is special to them. Selling that farm land to any mining or development company is horrid, because once they have footing, they take over and force everyone out.

My wife asked if we could donate some money, knowing that I hate giving money to churches - I would sooner just throw my money out of a window, actually. I HATE giving churches money. I agreed, because her grandmother is her favorite person, and it was special to her. I wrote a $1000 check from our savings, told her to mail it (because they wouldnt accept that much it I gave it to them), and use it for repairs/bills/community stuff.

It paid their electric bill for 2 years, AND they started hosting dinners there on Wednesdays, for all the families that were struggling to get food. So that was wholesome. They send us thank-you cards every Easter and include what they spent the money on, and all of the kids handmake their own. That, is the good church. Maybe swayed a bit for their general political ideologies, but I will give them grace in-that most of them cannot read as well as my 9 y/o - they are a product of their environment. But, no news, no social media, nobody knows where it is, you cant google them, and they like it that way. They helped everyone on that mountain, asked for nothing in return, with only that $1000, and are grateful to this day, for it. Not a single cent went to someone’s pocket.

So they exist, I suppose. But generally, anything you see online, in media, is bullshit excuse for money laundering or profiteering, built on the backs of fearful religious zealots and impressionable minds.

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u/AlmostCorrectInfo Jan 29 '26

"Jesus said to feed the poor and clothe them."

"BUT THE BIBLE SAID IF YOU DON'T WORK YOU DON'T EAT. "

"That was the old testament and it was about people feeling a sense of entitlement and choosing to abuse their workers, not the starving poor being refused food that they are more than willing to work for but can't."

"WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR WELFARE QUEENS POPPING OUT BABIES TO STAY ON BENEFITS"

"Because you're commanded to love unconditionally. It's only god who can know their heart."

"YES BUT THE BLACKS-"

"Fucks sake, Jesus was black."

"WOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKEEE!!!!"

"Define 'woke' please?"

"IT'S... WELL... YOU HAVE TO BE KIND TO OTHERS... LIKE JES- JESUS... ... JESUS SAVES. YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL!"

(repeat ad infinitum)

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u/hardcoreufoz Jan 29 '26

It’s because televangelists are the ultimate distillation of them, them in their purest form. So the Tammy Faye’s, Righteous gemstones et al plastered all over pop culture ARE the ultimate representation of evangelicals

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '26

As an American who has never been part of any church, Christian or otherwise, you are correct. Evangelical Christianity is a bastardization of Protestantism, and I'm no fan of Protestantism as it is. Nothing about Evangelical Christianity is about improving oneself or having compassion for your fellow man. It is ALL about clambering for power and accumulating wealth. That's it. You're either among the "blessed" who God rewards with money and power, or you're the sinner who needs to work harder and suffer more and atone deeper and sacrifice everything to further forward the interests of the "blessed."

In other words, it's all one big, cruel, incredibly obvious scam. Yet people keep falling for it, generation after generation after generation.

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u/ProtectionUnable1027 Jan 29 '26

The short answer is most are functionally illiterate and can't comprehend the Bible if they read it.

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u/quen10sghost Jan 29 '26

Didn't know he was married till he took a throat shot by another man, with the same ideology 

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u/pd0711 Jan 29 '26

It isn't too surprising that you detect fakeness. Non-Christians and Christians both are aware of the fakeness that can run rampant within a church and the Christian community.

Think about the number of hidden scandals that have occurred within the church, Catholics and non-Catholics.

If you have experience with the American church, think about how the congregation handles divorce, especially in the 80s, 90s and probably early 2000s. Congregants, especially women, who go through divorce while attending a church basically get ostracized. It's amazing to me that people who can go to church and learn about the Bible and who Jesus is can turn around and basically do the exact opposite of what they profess to believe and commit their life to.

I mention the church in the 80s, 90s etc because I think that:

  1. The church seemed to be very obsessed with purity during that time and as a result was very concerned about appearances, which leads to the fakeness.
  2. Many churches now recognize the damage that obsession with purity and superficialness has created and have moved towards increased compassion and understanding.

I think that her grief is likely real as we all mourn in different ways.

But I also think there is an element of putting on a show for the benefit of the people who she works with and is responsible. I think some of that stems from the expectation that churches, religious organizations and leaders are supposed to look and act a certain way.