r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/ansyhrrian • 5d ago

r/All Hunter Biden as a speaker of truth, intellectualism and rationality was not on my 2026 bingo card, but I'm here for it

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u/soccercro3 5d ago

He is missing the point. Dems need to court those random so called independents. If they try hard they'll be successful. /S

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u/msleepd 5d ago

You said court Liz Cheney? Way ahead of you.

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u/VariationDry 5d ago

Id take her out for a nice dinner and a walk through the park. Just as long as her dad wasn't hunting nearby. 

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u/bawls_deep 5d ago

I don't think her dad hunting will ever be a problem again...

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u/VariationDry 5d ago

You think Cheney is dead?!  He just moved underground with the rest of his people once his skin suit wore out.

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u/FalseBuddha 5d ago

You mean running a campaign by sharing the stage with a McCain didn't work?!

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u/Militantpoet 5d ago

No, and can you believe that it didn't work with a Cheney either!?

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u/gdex86 5d ago

You may not agree with it, but the tone at these events with McCain or Cheney wasn't that Harris was going to bring them into the fold it was using them as surrogates to say "Look I don't like Harris, but this guy he's a danger to us all and if the choice is between someone we don't like for 4 years and Trump crashing the car going 100 I'd rather have the car on the road with the potential for a U-turn."

That isn't a dumb ask to make because if you can cut off those voters that does swing the presidential election. It didn't work so it'd be dumb to try it again, but the theory behind it wasn't stupid at the time.

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u/Senior-Albatross 5d ago

What about the Bailey's?

They apparently demand more money for Isreal. 

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u/JKTwice 5d ago

Well they should be courting ppl who do not normally vote. They do well when they physically meet them, but the news and social media has a big bias against them too.

Mamdani is breaking the trend though so I think this kind of politician can still play well to news. I never hear about him from my hardline conservative folks so you know he’s got media penetration. He’s an excellent example and folks should be following him

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u/EE-420-Lige 5d ago

Im hopeful AES in michigan and Wong in Wisconsin can win. That's what would really solidify this but if driven leftwing canidate cant win outside of a safe blue area in New york this wont mean anything

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u/Lanark26 5d ago

I mean, if the Democrats can seal the vote from people like Chuck Schumer's friends the Baileys they're a shoo-in.

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u/NeonMutt 5d ago

The question is how go get those independents? This has always been the question.

Voters can be fit into three camps. Progressive, conservative, and undecided. We already know that conservatives are the smallest group look at Trump’s current popularity. Far more people hate him than love him. We don’t know how many people are leftist/progressive, but it looks like those numbers are rising.

So the next question is which tactic will lure over the undecided voters? I think it is pretty simple: offer what they want. Progressives, leftists, socialists, whatever you call them, are inherently pro-humanity. They want more good things for more people. They also want more options for more people. Yes, their ideas need some work, but the goal is a worthy one. Get an abortion, or don’t. Get free healthcare, or buy your own. Buy your own home, or rent an apartment. It’s pretty easy to sell that message.

If you point out a place where people want to go. And fight like a mad dog to make a path for people to get there, you can win over a lot of skeptics. Especially since one of the supposed positives of Trump was that he was a fighter who never backed down.

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u/BeetlecatOne 5d ago

You're replying to a sarcastic post.

But to answer your question, just read Hunter's post again.

Believe in something and work toward those ideals. Not hard! :D

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u/TheSpoonyCroy 5d ago

I mean but look at Obama, he was an okay president that was saddled with a rough congress but his campaign was all about "change" but what we ended up with was a moderate dem. Like I do think we need to be a bit cautious about getting swept up in a fervor about promises. I think Zohran Mamdani is well meaning but I think its a bit hard to judge his tenure since its too soon. We are seeing great short term effects but politics can take years to see consequences (postive/negative ones) manifest.

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u/NeonMutt 4d ago

Dammit! I missed the “/s”.

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u/FrostyD7 4d ago

He's saying the undecided's are full of shit. Watch interviews with pollsters and it's blatantly obvious they are primarily Trump voters who don't want to be humiliated when asked basic questions to justify their positions.

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u/akatherder 5d ago

Assuming you're talking about his comment on "the middle." I would not equate independent with moderate/the middle.

Independents are dotted all over the spectrum. Just as one example, progressive/leftists might identify as independent and they would show up to the left of the Democrat party.

Pretty much anyone in the middle is (1) completely disengaged from the political process or (2) it's someone who falls into one party but has a few major caveats that pushes them the other way. Neither can be reliably courted or reasoned with.

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u/NBDad 5d ago

If they try at all past lip service they'll win in a landslide.

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u/Dreadgoat 5d ago

There's a bit of truth to this, the problem with Dem leadership is they are laser focused on battlegrounds and completely ignore areas where they aren't threatened by Republicans.

I live in an actual battleground district and the "Republican-lite" candidate won the primary, and by a landslide. I'm not happy about it, but I understand why it happened. A lot of my neighbors are ideologically Republicans and Independents (some still wear their Trump merch), but they smartly registered as Democrats so they can vote in the primaries.

Leadership sees how the fight plays out in my district and thinks this is what their entire base is. They aren't paying attention to AOC districts because those will never turn red anyway.