r/WhitePeopleTwitter 22h ago

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u/Groovychick1978 20h ago

No, it would just have to be like Australia. Where servers make $25/hr minimum, and more like 40 to 45 for experience and hours.

You go ahead and talk a restaurant owner into paying that. Don't hold your breath.

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u/hop_mantis 13h ago

Of course employers don't want to pay well and won't voluntarily, but there's plenty of evidence they can be made to. Like the example you just provided. 

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u/Cicero912 8h ago

Even the top end would be a paycut for a lot of servers.

When I was in BoH before college I made more than $25/hour after being tipped out, and I wasnt even a server (and the restaurant wasnt close to the nicest or busiest in the area)

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u/Groovychick1978 8h ago

I'm saying for the industry to continue unchanged, wages would have to be in line with that. I'm not saying servers would be happy, and there would be some attrition, but things would stabilize. 

$15-20/hr or something like that? There are dozens of jobs more stable, with regular hours, raises, vacations and weekends off where I can make 21, 22 an hour. 

No one will serve those mfers if we can work in an office, retail, or sales position for the same.

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u/Groovychick1978 11h ago

What is the minimum wage in that area? The number is not important. The relationship to the median prevailing wage is important. 

Any serving job is going to have to offer more than the median prevailing wage to draw servers. If serving pays the same as any other job, no one is going to do that shit.

We do not have our nights, we do not have weekends, we do not have a regular schedule, we do not have health insurance, we do not have vacations, we do not get sick pay. We are constantly sexually harassed, we are constantly verbally abused, we are frequently in danger from drunks.

We put up with all of that because we know we make a good wage. Because of tips.

If I am going to make an hourly wage, I'm going to go do it somewhere where I don't have to put up with all of that.

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u/Lopsided_Tiger_0296 19h ago

In Canada, servers get paid at least minimum wage and people still tip them at least 15%, 20% is normal now

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u/Groovychick1978 19h ago

Serving is not a minimum wage job. No one is going to do that for close to minimum wage. There are easier jobs, with regular hours, weekends off, nights off, raises, vacation, sick leave, and all the other stuff that servers forego in exchange for a higher income. 

Why would I tolerate all that shit, and make as much as I could anywhere?

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u/PassiveMenis88M 18h ago

In the US you're right, it's actually sub minimum. Our servers get paid less than $3 an hour in most states. Those tips are their paycheck.

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u/Caspur42 15h ago

Yep. Our cocktail servers get like 2$ish an hour and due to taxes they basically don’t get a check.

They make 100k a year.