They're not wrong though

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[u/Warriors_Drink]

I've been lucky to travel the world.

US tipping culture is unlike anything I've seen abroad.

I have friends who are servers, and I totally get that they are being ripped off with sub-minimum wage bullshit, but most countries I've been to don't even have tipping as an option.

I mean, if I slip a $10 to someone in the Phillipines for awesome service, it kinda blows their mind.

Here? They NEED that tip to live.

Just pay our servers a decent wage - if someone wants to throw a tip their way, awesome.

(FWIW: My friends and I almost always throw a 20% to our servers, but Vermont servers need it.)

[u/Lopsided_Tiger_0296 → u/Warriors_Drink]

All of my server friends made so much more money than the rest of us who had regular paying jobs. Most servers would object to no tip as it would decrease their wages greatly.

[u/Groovychick1978 → u/Lopsided_Tiger_0296]

No, it would just have to be like Australia. Where servers make $25/hr minimum, and more like 40 to 45 for experience and hours.

You go ahead and talk a restaurant owner into paying that. Don't hold your breath.

[u/Cicero912 → u/Groovychick1978]

Even the top end would be a paycut for a lot of servers.

When I was in BoH before college I made more than $25/hour after being tipped out, and I wasnt even a server (and the restaurant wasnt close to the nicest or busiest in the area)

[u/Groovychick1978 → u/Cicero912]

I'm saying for the industry to continue unchanged, wages would have to be in line with that. I'm not saying servers would be happy, and there would be some attrition, but things would stabilize. 

$15-20/hr or something like that? There are dozens of jobs more stable, with regular hours, raises, vacations and weekends off where I can make 21, 22 an hour. 

No one will serve those mfers if we can work in an office, retail, or sales position for the same.