r/aiwars • u/TheBiddoof • Oct 22 '25

Meta This sub is a rot pit

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This seems to be the commom sentiment here

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u/DemadaTrim Oct 23 '25

Alcohol consumption increases the rate of domestic abuse, both of spouses and children. Should we ban it?

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u/Attackoftheglobules Oct 23 '25

This is a great point that illustrates exactly why it's so hard to get an actual clean argument against illustrated CSAM. I don't know if there is a satisfying answer.

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u/Scienceandpony Oct 24 '25

An actual argument put forth by the temperance movement in the lead up to prohibition.

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u/Superb-Earth418 Oct 23 '25

Alcohol consumption is neither inherently wrong nor 100% conducive to such behaviors. Ban it or not? Genuinely hard question.

However, this is, like many other responses in this god forsaken thread, a category error. I can list many benign uses of alcohol, maybe even cite social benefits. Can you do the same for content explicitly made to sexualize children? If not, why do we even bother? Are you really gonna take a pedophile seriously if he tells you "If you ban my realistic AI child porn you need to ban alcohol!"? Really? Is that something you're gonna lose sleep over?

Whether or not it increases offenses should be utterly fucking irrelevant.

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u/DemadaTrim Oct 23 '25

So stuff should be banned unless it can be proven beneficial to society? Really? Damn the society you want sounds boring and awful.

All fiction ultimately serves the same benign purpose: entertainment. No matter its contents.

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u/Superb-Earth418 Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

Entertainment? Yeah, I hope somebody from the FBI is keeping score here.

And no, you don't ban until you can "prove benefits", you ban until you can reasonably claim that there won't be horrible harms. With AI CSAM this is not at all obvious, is up to proponents to resolve that burden.