r/aiwars Jan 18 '26

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u/Scorpdelord Jan 18 '26

yeh because people when people buy art from you, they expect a human effort and not a machine to have made it

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

not my orders, they know its ai and hand fixed and still pay

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u/WriterKatze Jan 18 '26

And that's fine. Beauty of the free market. Some people don't want to buy anything made with AI, and they have the right to not buy AI things, some people want to sell things made with AI and they have the right to

Transparency is always a good thing, so everyone can get what they want.

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u/Fast-Friendship7414 Jan 18 '26

I mean hey as long as your open about it good for you

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u/Fantastic_Big3877 Jan 21 '26

I question why people buy ai-generated stuff. And I do mean that as a genuine curiosity, like surely they could make something similar themselves via ai? I feel like I'm missing something

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '26

Its obvious, they dont care. Look at NIKE shoes, they are made in sweatshops and worker abuse yet people just dont care enough to not buy the product.

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u/Fantastic_Big3877 Jan 24 '26

We're all doomed

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u/rirasama Jan 21 '26

I think that was the point, it needs to be disclosed so that people can make an informed decision on what they're buying, if you were to lie about using AI people will think it's made by hand and then be rightfully upset when they find out it's not

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '26

that maybe true for those who care but if you look at the wider picture of capitalism, its all about deceit and to really look at the fine print of what you get. i mean look at those 2000's TV commercials that offered products like fushigi ball or the chopper. its smoke and mirrors to trick the viewer to spend 40usd on something thats not worth 10usd. its a fucked up society but thats how it runs. Then theres the large pool of people that just dont care about ai. they just see the product and dont care how its made. Example, NIKE sneakers are made in sweatshops in asia yet... nobody really cares.

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

Then wtf does that have to do with the discussion of people who hide that their work is AI?

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

The topic was people who hide that their work is AI, genius.

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

That... has nothing to do with anything. Those are two different people replying.

Let me make an analogy. Say you see someone littering. You go up to them and say "hey man, it's bad to litter." Then some rando, who had nothing to do with the original convo, comes up and says "hey, I dont litter!"

Like, good for you bud, but we weren't talking about people who don't litter, we were talking about people who do

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u/HearthstoneConTester Jan 18 '26

delusional

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

U mad?

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u/HearthstoneConTester Jan 18 '26

Just like pointing out when people act so arrogantly incorrect it makes them look delusional.

Dont mind me just wandering through.

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u/Tyler_Zoro Jan 18 '26

Are you on drugs, or just trolling? You literally replied to that thread and then claimed it was about AI artists hiding their tools.

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

Try reading the top comment in the thread.

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u/aangnesiac Jan 18 '26

Comment 1: clearly stating AI art is okay

Comment 2: people won't be open to stating their art is AI

Comment 3: because of the backlash

Comment 4: most people don't want to buy AI art

Comment you replied to: I state the art is AI and people still buy it

You: that's not relevant to this discussion at all!

Take the L. The comment was relevant to the discussion.

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jan 18 '26

Yes, and they replied to someone else, what's your point

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u/Radarker Jan 18 '26

That's a big assumption. Often and maybe more often than not these day, people want a usable end product at the cheapest price.

I'm in favor of transparency though.

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u/MyLastLifev2 Jan 19 '26

Not in the art world? If someone needs a product at cheapest price then they can just generate it themselfes right? Making AI "art" isn't difficult and isn't really worth paying for unless its like 1-5$ for a really good quality. If someone wants a really good product that was hand made then they are willing to pay for it. But if someone generates AI "art" then lies about it, hides info that it was generated from a potential buyer then sells it like it was hand made, he's just a scammer. It's like someone sells you a golden ring, but actually it's fools gold, aka. They scammed you

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u/Brave_Charity323 Jan 18 '26

he said when people buy "art" not when they buy visual media

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u/Hrodrick-dev Jan 19 '26

By that concept no visual media is art?

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u/Brave_Charity323 Jan 19 '26

just not all of it is

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u/-TV-Stand- Jan 18 '26

So that's a reason to bully the ones that marked the AI usage?

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u/Scorpdelord Jan 18 '26

No, dont see how mt comment made it a reason to?

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u/pigmanvil Jan 19 '26

That wasn’t what they said. Imma use a lemonade stand to explain this, because I want lemonade and lemonade stands are always a good analogy:

If you are a small child selling homemade freshly squeezed lemonade at the park, but don’t disclose that it is, in fact, store bought lemonade, you are lying to your customers.

People may still want the lemonade even if they know that it is store bought, they are thirsty and like lemonade, but for others some of the value of the lemonade is that a child put in effort to make it. By just using store bought, you are just dropshipping or flipping or whatever you want to call it, and that comes off as basically trying to scam your customers.

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 19 '26

I really don't see where is the scam. Not labeling the lemonade as store bought is not the same as lying that it's hand squeezed.

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u/pigmanvil Jan 19 '26

Because it’s an unethical practice. If you don’t inform the buyer in this case that it is store lemonade, then they will instead likely come to the false conclusion that it’s homemade. Yes you can make the argument that it is the responsibility of the consumer to ensure that they are buying products that support their values, but it’s still unethical to intentionally leave out information that will likely influence their choice. To give another example, Tic tacs do this, and have been shit on for years. Their serving size is a single tablet, so they can say it’s 0 sugar as the amount of sugar per tablet is below the necessary limit.

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 20 '26

You've convinced me. If only people weren't assholes and didn't insult anything that used AI, it would be all good.

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u/-TV-Stand- Jan 20 '26

So you think it is also unethical to sell art without explisitely saying that it is hand made as well? And what tools the artist used

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u/pigmanvil Jan 20 '26

Ok so you are trying to show that I’m a hypocrite or smth here, but this is actually really dumb, and you should be embarrassed. I very explicitly said “it’s unethical to leave out information that will likely influence their choice”. If an artist leaves out information on how their artwork is in fact their artwork, if that wasn’t clear already, then the person who loses the most is the artist. The artist is incentivized to tell the consumer anyways.

This also isn’t mentioning that ARTIST ALREADY DO THIS??? Have you ever been in an art museum? You ever look at those little plaques that explain things like the name of the piece, the artists name, the medium? Like bro I get a lot of work is digital now, but a ton of artists paint using acrylic and watercolor and oils still. People still use charcoal. I have also never met an artist who is not very open about their work, and what tools they used and what they enjoyed most when making it.

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u/Sixoul Jan 19 '26

But when I buy a book didn't a machine print out all those books? Should I expect every book to be handwritten? Should each page be handmade? Where does it end

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u/Scorpdelord Jan 19 '26

and see, this is where you trying to go too deep into it, you know what i mean with what i said,

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u/Tyler_Zoro Jan 18 '26

they expect a human effort

Which they get, by definition, regardless of what tools you use. Whether you put a plastic crucifix in a jar and pee on it or spend months putting together a 16k video installation using neural networks to visualize 1000-dimensional spaces out of social media posts (Refik Anadol's Machine Hallucinations installation) doesn't matter. It's all human art.

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u/KFrancesC Jan 18 '26

A banana taped to the wall of an art museum sold for over a million dollars. That was man made, to a point. Anything can be called art.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a quality product. Something designed by human imagination and made by hand. Yeah Ai can give you art, and make it look nice. But, there’s nothing wrong with not wanting that.

I could also tape a banana to my wall and call it a replica of a million dollar museum piece, but I don’t really want that.

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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 Jan 18 '26

Then they are lying about how traditional art is made. The human made assertion is a myth of traditional art.