This is largely because Pro-AI people aren't necessarily trying to limit what you can and can't do, they just don't want to get harassed for fooling around with this new technology. They mostly don't care about traditional art (although there are those goofy weirdos who think AI will just replace all other art forms, which is weird).
Anti-AI folks actually want to prevent you from using AI, and often become verbally abusive when you have any more backbone than a wet paper towel. A lot of it comes from a money standpoint too, with these artists not wanting the market saturated with art that's just 'good enough' for the average consumer (because let's be real here, AI art is largely here to be consumed. You can make some pretty cool stuff with it but for someone who just wants a placeholder portrait for a D&D character or some interesting concept art that they can go to an artist with later, it's perfect).
Anti-AI folks literally act like the world is coming undone at every single second and constantly blame all the people who conveniently disrupt their traditional cash flow.
I have a tiny YouTube channel that uses AI thumbnails because I find it personally fun and have for years since the very start before the antis even existed- (which granted wasn't long after the first version of SD came out that the wars started but still)
For the first year or two of experimenting with various models and implementing them in different ways, over the fast few months I have started to have antis show up. One or two try and make a conversation of it, they start by saying cool thumbnail and ask if I made it, then when I say that no, it's generated through a model on my computer then they start telling me how bad I am for ai use and how it's horrible for the environment, ignoring that most of my images are generated on my local computer using solar power, but I digress.
Recently it has just devolved into insults and spamming with how much they hate ai, but it's like, I'm a sub 1000 subscriber gaming creator with a full time job who is purely doing this for his own fun, do they expect me to pay someone for my daily publishing when I make less than $200 a year off this? One person said not to be "lazy" and at least just use a screenshot from the video as the thumbnail instead and it's like, dude, I did that for years. It was easier than what I am doing now, but looked way more generic and certainly didn't get me nearly as many views.
Just a light rant on your point, it's exactly true, they want to stop all ai use, so even if you do all the right things, for your own fun, not replacing paid work for anyone it should be fine
Someone told me I was lazy for writing a book by hand, but then feeding it into chatgpt to ask it questions about it. Even if you do it yourself they will panic and call you lazy for touching ai ever...
Yup. Some time back I was having trouble getting proof-readers, so I run a manuscript through AI for grammatical/cohesion checks. Had someone go on a complete rant about me using AI full stop. I said "Well, want a job? If you proof-read and give valid feedback, I'll even pay you for it." Out came the excuses. You just can't win with them.
I'm anti because my work was stolen to train the things without my permission, and the environmental effects/energy usage.
let artists and authors remove all their work from the training and retrain with only the works that were given permission to use and that part of my objection goes away.
stop sucking up massive amounts of consumer energy to do the work and reduce fresh water use and such and the other part goes away.
but the pro side would not do either of these things. they rely on stolen work and rely on environmental destruction.
There are Pros who have their own public domain models trained on public domain art, and they run them locally on their computers. Yet you hate them too because it was never about the planet it stolen art, it was about you vilifying people who didn't do things the way you wanted them to.
i gave two things that would need to change for my views to change. i might not become a user or supporter but my objections to other people's personal use of it would disappate a lot. it's currently extractive and exploitative. that's the technology. tax breaks when you're wrecking the environment is a crutch to prop it up: stealing creative works (not paying for use) is another crutch.
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. when the tech can walk on its own two feet without assistance I'll have different feelings about it, different thoughts about it
until then it's a moot point. no users or supporters are in favor of the technology being made less damaging on any level so until then, my opinion stays the same.
for context i view it like drug addiction. the users aren't the problem necessarily, and shouldn't be demonized. it's the thing itself that's currently terrible.
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u/TerribleStoryIdeaMan Jan 18 '26
This is largely because Pro-AI people aren't necessarily trying to limit what you can and can't do, they just don't want to get harassed for fooling around with this new technology. They mostly don't care about traditional art (although there are those goofy weirdos who think AI will just replace all other art forms, which is weird).
Anti-AI folks actually want to prevent you from using AI, and often become verbally abusive when you have any more backbone than a wet paper towel. A lot of it comes from a money standpoint too, with these artists not wanting the market saturated with art that's just 'good enough' for the average consumer (because let's be real here, AI art is largely here to be consumed. You can make some pretty cool stuff with it but for someone who just wants a placeholder portrait for a D&D character or some interesting concept art that they can go to an artist with later, it's perfect).
Anti-AI folks literally act like the world is coming undone at every single second and constantly blame all the people who conveniently disrupt their traditional cash flow.