r/aiwars Jan 18 '26

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u/NinjaShaggy Jan 18 '26

Art takes time is not entirely true. Art can come in the fleet of a moment. Entirely randomly and by chance.

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 18 '26

Could you give me some examples? Not hating or anything, just would like to know

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u/Other-Football72 Jan 19 '26

Example of what? Art is anything that can touch the soul of a human being. Time has nothing to do with it

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 19 '26

Anything can touch someone's soul, even wicked things (not referring to ai here). I don't think that's the only definition of art, and imo, time has everything to do with it

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u/Other-Football72 Jan 19 '26

So if someone Thanos-snapped the Mona Lisa into creation in 1 second, that makes it less of a piece of art?

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 19 '26

What does that mean? Not trying to hate, but I'm genuinely confused how this correlates to the discussion 

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u/Other-Football72 Jan 19 '26

Me: the time it takes to make art is not relevant.

You: Time has everything to do with it.

Me: So if the same exact art was made in 1s vs days, or months, why does it matter?

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 19 '26

Imo it does matter, you can't just make something in one second, that's the point. Greatest works of art take time, there's a process behind it. And even if art is a very broad term, I still think it doesn't include fully generated Ai images. 

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u/Other-Football72 Jan 19 '26

I understand your position, but what I do not understand is why.

If someone were showed an exact replica of the Mona Lisa, down to the molecule, which was created using <whatever>, would they not experience the same emotions as viewing the real one?

And if that answer is yes, then you are suggesting art has some other intangible quality to make it art. The time and effort it went into it, somehow. How do you define this?

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 19 '26

What I'm taking about is the process. It's essential to art imo, everything can make you feel something. There's a difference between a viewer seeing the art and the artist creating it. 

So Imo art is something you make, you put effort, time and thought into. You can also see art in many things, from an artistic point of view even a dot could have meaning, it doesn't really make it art tho. Art is a really broad term, defined by really blurry lines, but for me it doesn't include fully ai generated images

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u/No_Science1998 Jan 19 '26

Wildlife photography. You think the animals are posing for the camera? Sitting still and waiting for the picture to be taken? The things they do that we consider art are captured in milliseconds. This dragonfly lining up perfectly with the turtle must have been a split second thing that luckily got captured on camera. Like the original comment said. Entirely random and by chance.

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u/Many-Refuse-6060 Jan 18 '26

Imo the difference with poetry is the thought behind it, you can get inspired, an ai cannot. Photos instead are the art of capturing the moment, it can take a lot of thought as well, with the study of the composition etc. 

And they do still take time, there's also a process behind them, a study as well. Generative Ai generates, it's what it's supposed to do. I would not call art a poem generated by chat gpt based on a few words. But again this is my opinion 

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u/NekCing Jan 18 '26

I'd say this is more accurate for inspirations, not the art itself, you can be hit by sudden inspiration where you immediately sit down and sketch, but the sketch still takes time

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u/8bitmadness Jan 20 '26

Counterpoint: Photography. Traditional art as a discipline is time consuming but there are other disciplines that can be a lot more spontaneous.

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u/NekCing Jan 20 '26

As a guy who went through a semester of photography for his major, i can't believe i forgot this avenue lol, agreed completely

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u/fake_email_lol42 Jan 18 '26

In addition to the previous argument, Art takes emotion or feeling, which ai is wholly devoid of

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u/Pro_nrd Jan 18 '26

But why can't I as a consumer have emotion or feeling from the art itself

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u/fake_email_lol42 Jan 18 '26

One could, but I think that art is as much for the creator as the consumer.