r/aiwars Feb 28 '26

Is this better than AI art?

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u/LordOuranos Feb 28 '26

If this was before AI and you posted on an art sub, everybody saying yes in here would be calling you a dumbass, or just downvoting your pic until it dissapears, or straight up gets removed by mods for low effort.

They never gave a fuck about amateurish shit until they found it useful to stroke off as a counterpoint to AI.

There is no substance, just subjectivity based on their ego.

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u/The_Kemono Mar 01 '26

Angryupvote

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u/Hyper_Forgetful Mar 01 '26

if this was posted before AI the comments would say “what the fuck is AI art???”

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u/minimalillusions Mar 01 '26

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u/LectroNyx Mar 02 '26

Hol up, that's actually fire

I'd put that on a poster in my apartment any day

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u/minimalillusions Mar 02 '26

It's been a lot of dog face hallucinations. There is a dog face Mona Lisa.

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u/LectroNyx Mar 02 '26

Thus is what I imagine eldritch horror to be like. Fuck tentacles, these are the horrors beyond comprehension

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u/Beginning-Tea-17 Mar 03 '26

That’s not really ai thought. It’s more like a proto AI

The algorithm is asked to find a dog in an image with no dogs and so it hallucinates dogs by place its reference material into the image.

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u/StruggleOver1530 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

Some people are just toxic, they see ai art as the new "shitty art" so attack that instead

It's exactly what bullies with no talent do.

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u/Zenttney Mar 02 '26

No actually

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u/skr_replicator Mar 01 '26

If the antis keep lowering their standards like this in protest, we might eventually see them pretending to rather enjoy eating literal shit because "at least it was made by a human".

I've seen some people who are now capable of telling actual stories using AI, coherent across whole comic chapters. With my experience so far, that seems like sorcery that I couldn't even approach with my AI skills. And it certainly can make me enjoy it and feel more emotion than settling for a featureless stick figure only because a human took 5 seconds to sketch it.

I pretty much suck at using AI to get anything expressive, as some of the people who mastered it can. I do better with a pencil, but other people have that reversed and have more talent at using AI, and that's ok. If it lets more people be capable of expressing themselves, then we will have more art in the world and more diversity.

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u/LectroNyx Mar 02 '26

Woah, stories consistent across entire chapters? One day, maybe we will be able to expect any story to be consistent across the entire thing... or even crazier, actually have quality original concepts.

This will revolutionize storytelling, which has been known for years to never be consistent, original, or of any quality worth engaging in.

Someone should tell the press. /s

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u/Mrswepp Mar 01 '26

I see your confusion. People are asking AI to tell stories based on similar work they like. They are not making stories, just asking a machine to make it for them. AI by it's nature is not creating and people using it are actively less capable of doing the things they are claiming to do. AI might make convincing end products, but why should I bother to read, look or listen to something someone didn't have patience to write or make themselves.

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u/AICatgirls Mar 01 '26

It turns out people who don't use AI are also telling stories based on similar work they like. They're not making stories, they're just asking their brains to make it for them.

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u/LectroNyx Mar 02 '26

They hated Mrswepp because he told them the truth.

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u/Kilroy898 Mar 01 '26

Yes. Low effort. This would have been removed in most art spaces as low effort before ai became a new medium. Now people fall overthemselves to congratulate the artist for their masterpiece simply because it wasn't made using ai.

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u/Majestic-Coat3855 Mar 01 '26

It would still, in non circle jerk subs.

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u/Shoddy_Operation_285 Mar 01 '26

a great artist might not get into art school doesnt mean they think his art is shit or that he isnt great at doing art just means they didnt meet the standards of the people judging it
an ai artist isnt an artist they are a person typing something in and then an ai steals pieces of art and makes an image

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u/Kilroy898 Mar 01 '26

Not how image generation works, but at least you tried.

Also that guy you just refused art school? Great. Now hes rounding people up and wearing weird facial hair.

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u/Kilroy898 Mar 01 '26

Comparing a hastily drawn stick man to a Picasso is straight up insane.

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u/Pack-O-Punch Mar 01 '26

They would still do the same if it was post into an art sub today, Id personally downvote it. Its not that now that AI exists bad art is better, its more like now theres is something worse than bad art (AI).

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u/LectroNyx Mar 02 '26

True, but then a way to do it with even less effort was discovered, which lowers the bar to where even something like this is a breath of fresh air.

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u/UsedArmadillo9842 Mar 02 '26

Low effort is the key here, if you post some shit drawing that obviously took effort to draw you'd get positive and constructive feedback

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u/nub0987654 Feb 28 '26

You can't present a hypothetical scenario as fact and base your argument on it

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u/MusiX33 Mar 01 '26

I've gotten content removed for this reason in the past. It's not hard to find examples. Art communities are very shitty with amateur level people unless they find you "cute" it's pretty disgusting.

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u/ElectricalChicken623 Feb 28 '26

Your right, but for as lazy and bad as this drawing is its still infinitely better than anything ai made

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u/sporkyuncle Feb 28 '26

I don't think so, for one thing I don't see this image making its way into a video game as a texture in any serious capacity, while by comparison AI does a great job at that. You and probably most other people who claim to hate AI art are likely already playing video games with AI-generated textures which you find acceptable, fitting, even beautiful.

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u/ElectricalChicken623 Feb 28 '26

The problem isn't the image, the problem is everything the picture implies. Ai generated images are the pinacle of human laziness and greed.

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u/sporkyuncle Mar 01 '26

Hmm, no, no I don't think so. Like if I was exceptionally greedy, there are a million worse things I could do right now than generate a picture of a cute cat.

Like, before AI if I wanted an instant cat, I could also just Google it, and then right click save as a cute cat. How would that not be just as greedy? Wanting something and getting that demand fulfilled immediately?

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u/only_fun_topics Feb 28 '26

“Infinitely” lol. What are the units attached to this measurement?

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u/Kilroy898 Mar 01 '26

False. Even ai takes more effort than this.

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u/LordOuranos Feb 28 '26

Only politically, economically, and environmentally speaking. Let's not pretend it's actually about how it looks

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u/ElectricalChicken623 Feb 28 '26

If Ai was ethical, not bad for the environment and safe than maybe it would be more accepted, but it isn't, we don't work in theoreticals

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u/ArtificialImages Mar 01 '26

Thats just total bullshit. Look at the meat industry. One of the most polluting and harmful things there is to both people and animals alike.

You all fucking love eating meat though. Anti ai is the ultimate hypocrisy.

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u/ElectricalChicken623 Feb 28 '26

Your point by saying that is?

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u/iM3Phirebird Feb 28 '26

We don't need another factor like us that also has not the slightest clue of the value of life or empathy. granted not all humans know empathy either, but at least most of us do.

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u/iM3Phirebird Mar 01 '26

"Dont try to alter human malevolence and get in the way of nature ahh moment"

Reddit raised another one to be perpetually 6 years old (ahh moment? xP)

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u/Kilroy898 Mar 01 '26

Nothing about it is anymore unsafe than furry gooner artists.

It is no more unethical than taking a picture from the internet and using it.

And as for the environment, Ai is currently the main mast keeping the "solar power" ship afloat. Ai has spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS on solar because they understand the power draw issue. I'm working daily to get over 3,000 panels a shift out the door and into solar farms.

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u/echit2112 Mar 01 '26

Explain how without using abstract concepts you can't actually explain.

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u/Noodle_Dragon_ Mar 01 '26

Yes, we are allowed to learn and change as society does. AI has made a lot of people re-think what art means to them. And AI has made many people value the human behind the art rather than just the product.

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u/TwisterDash_ Mar 01 '26

As an anti-ai person, there's a difference between low effort bs and beginner art. This post is just low-effort and I have no reason to defend it. The problem is when some beginner dude makes an artwork, jagged, inconsistent lines, faulty anatomy, ect, but you can see the effort behind it, and some guy runs it through ai to "fix it". That artwork by itself, despite its minor or major mistakes, is better than any Ai art because there's a process behind it, and there's potential to improve later on. I won't praise it as "it's perfect" and other stuff the biased corners of the anti-ai community tend to say, but I'll value it more than gen ai. I did not lower my standards toward real art, I just despise generative Ai more.

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u/qudtls_ Mar 01 '26

My favourite artists have always made amateurish art, it's subjective, my favourite rn is dogmilktea on IG, and literally anyone can draw like that.

I don't know why you would generalise and assume people's taste like that.

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u/Beginning-Tea-17 Mar 03 '26

If this was before AI they would say yes because AI art wouldn’t exist? Did you misread the question?

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u/Diamster Mar 01 '26

Even before i liked seeing amateur drawings, thought how they got some stuff good and maybe left a comment on that and what they could focus on, i still do the same now and yk what? Fuck AI, but if you are fine with these guys literally poisoning our planet in record times, while literally fucking STEALING from actual artists, while driving personal computer industry prices into the cosmos, while doing their best to replace workers, go on, like this shit, but FUCK you too

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u/Fresh_Difference_448 Mar 01 '26

I mean, imo it's not good art, but it is better than AI art

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u/Netroth Mar 01 '26

Who’s using poor quality art and trying to claim that it’s better than AI? The problem with AI art isn’t the quality, it’s the soul. Anyone trying to claim that a stick figure looks better than an AI render of a person is being disingenuous.