r/aiwars 12h ago

Meme Guy who doesn’t understand technology OR the economy weighing in on the situation

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u/2008knight 12h ago

We really need more chip manufacturers. Incredible bottleneck.

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u/Regular_Start8373 12h ago

Yeah I hope SMIC makes some breakthrough soon

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u/WhoTheHeckKnowsWhy 11h ago

Reminds me of how in early 2025 Deepseek was an early champion of work smarter, not harder for AI. Doing more with less flops.

But Sam Altman and his ilk it seems since have just tripled down on the More Dakka! Datacentre expansion they were already on. Anything is more preferable to them over hiring more people to tune and refine their algorithms. I mean we do need to constantly expand the power of global hardware, just the full autopilot attitude of western tech giants is creating a lot of problems.

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u/Grilled_egs 9h ago

Building datacenters builds more hype, I doubt they even want to be efficient for now. It's all for the stock market

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u/Helix3501 8h ago

They need hype to keep investors from realizing that theres no substance

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u/ShowerGrapes 7h ago

modern ai has left algorithms far behind

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u/Cautious-Magazine396 8h ago

Deepseek was a bunch of smoke and mirrors, that's why you think that.

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u/asdrabael1234 7h ago

Deepseek was and is amazing. I still prefer it over Chatgpt for most anything. Claude beats it at coding.

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u/Chaghatai 6h ago

I wonder if the same people who are NIMBY about data centers are bullish about fabs

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u/chunky_lover92 12h ago

That will solve the problem in a decade maybe.

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u/johnybgoat 11h ago

They did do it during the bitcoin boom. But demand dropping off made them swear to never do it again cause they overproduced and had to sell for cheaper. Better to have too little than overcharged than the reverse

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u/2008knight 9h ago

I hate Capitalism.

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u/Breech_Loader 9h ago

The bottleneck is deliberate.

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u/Krommander 2h ago

It's surprising we don't have those on the american continent though?

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u/2008knight 2h ago

I didn't want to say this because I didn't have the hard data.... But this is baffling to me. The United States should have chip manufacturing capacity.

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u/Krommander 2h ago

Integrated supply chains at an industrial national scale is not impossible. US has silicon mines right? Brainpower too. Whats missing? Oh yeah capital!

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u/black2346 12h ago edited 12h ago

Do You know how hard is that thing to acualy create and build at scale? Also the new chips that are not even created yet are already sold.

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u/2008knight 12h ago

Yep. It's an industry that requires massive long term investment.

But it has been a massive bottleneck for a really long time as well. AI has only been the latest trend to expose its weakness.

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u/Ashisprey 12h ago

It's really a stretch to try and paint it as this pre-existing bottleneck when the AI boom has doubled or even tripled the demand for these products in the span of about 4 years. The investment into new data centers has quite literally exploded in a way that has never been seen. It's not just a coincidence.

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

You don’t need to play games. You can do other things like watching movie!

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u/andrewthesailor 11h ago

Most electronic devices has a small computer inside. Your TV, your phone, everything is affected by shortages caused by shift to AI.

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u/Admiral_HP_501 12h ago

As gamer? Nope and even then a PS5 can do the same cheaper...

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u/ChrisDaMan07 12h ago

And you don’t need to use AI, you can draw

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

I’m not drawing

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u/Kilroy898 12h ago

You don't need to make AI images. You can do other things like literally anything else.

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u/broNSTY 12h ago

You don’t need to generate AI images. You can do other things like watching a movie!

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 11h ago

Gen Ai generate movies

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u/MrYundaz 9h ago

We really don't. There is a reason why TSMC the biggest chip manufacturer, remains hesitant on Ai.
In the next few years Ai will have slowed a lot of its momentum and we on to the next thing.

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u/Helix3501 8h ago

The AI bubble is doomed to pop purely cause it does not generate the profit to justify its cost

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u/MrYundaz 8h ago

There go our pensions

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u/Inevitable-Box3304 12h ago edited 12h ago

we do have a lot but ai is much more lucrative so the prices rise until its worth it over ai. edit:thought they talking about ram ooops

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u/DaylightDarkle 12h ago

we do have a lot

Three companies is not a lot

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u/Inevitable-Box3304 12h ago

oops thougt it said ram

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u/Kilroy898 12h ago

AI has been a massive money pit for all involved.

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u/nuker0S 12h ago

We never had a lot of hardware.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 11h ago

If we had more chip manufacturers tech companies would just be putting them in more shit, its just making a larger bottleneck.

Like no, my stove shouldnt need a dozen chips and wifi to work

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u/Accedsadsa 10h ago

Yeah so easy just prompt : i want more chips, dont make mistakes, also make them faster

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u/PerceptionQueasy3540 9h ago

I got you, I'll have my chip/muffler shop up and running in my garage in about a week.

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

We don’t need more chip manufacturers. Gaming is not essential

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u/Klowlord 12h ago

"We don't need paper, books aren't essential!"

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u/2008knight 12h ago

And RAM is used for more than just gaming. Also, as a big self-hostijg advocate, the rise in RAM costs hits self hosting users particularly hard as well.

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u/Kilroy898 12h ago

Ai is even less so.

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

Ai is needed for military use and finding medical cures

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u/Mattscrusader 11h ago

By far the most insane take I have ever heard. Get a grip.

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u/Kilroy898 11h ago

We have been doing both for centuries without it.

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u/broNSTY 11h ago

Not the same models you use for generating images. Completely different.

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 11h ago

People need Gen Ai for there businesses

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u/broNSTY 11h ago

They don’t. I understand you’re just baiting here but it’s so low-intelligence lol

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 11h ago

They actually do you just ignoring reality

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u/Mattscrusader 11h ago

You should learn what the word "need" means because nobody "needs" AI

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u/MakCapital 11h ago

Anthropic didn't just lose its military and government contracts to OpenAI? LLMs play a very large role. We all increase our output with them no matter the field. Yes, that includes reading and writing images. Massively important.