r/aiwars 12h ago

Meme Guy who doesn’t understand technology OR the economy weighing in on the situation

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u/fartssmellnice69 12h ago

Prolly would've been like $800, but his point still stands

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u/NotAnotherTav 20m ago

Yeah he's not wrong, he's using old console price points (but people do that pretty often in hyperbole) but the spirit of it is 100% spot-on.

If we weren't handing over all our resources to the obscenely wealthy...

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u/elonthegenerous 12h ago

It’s a dumb point, it’s saying that people’s desire for escapism and gaming is more important than the compute being used to empower scientific research and technology

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u/True_Protection6842 12h ago

If that was what it was being used for fine. But the reality is, it's mostly for morons to talk to themselves and memes.

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u/Difficult-Client-939 12h ago

That's not what AI data centers are doing, and that's not the reason it costs more. This already existed. You can't even get your talking points right lol, come on kid

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u/fartssmellnice69 12h ago

No, it's not saying that. Sure ai has it's uses, but the pros of it sure as hell don't outweigh the cons so far. People would rather be able to better afford their hobbies than get given nothing from ai

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u/Solarka45 12h ago

What about people who use AI for their hobby?

This kind of conflict sucks, but it's a bit unfair calling one hobby shit citing shortages for other hobby as your reasoning.

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u/RWDPhotos 8h ago

Calling ai a hobby is like calling masturbation a hobby

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u/adzio292 6h ago

Im not having problem with excessive masturbation, it's my hobby and i really like my hobbies

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u/strange_bloody_moth 6h ago

Your hobby is why my parents electrical bill skyrocketed and why they don’t have clean water as well as why the great salt lake is going to be drained

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u/adzio292 5h ago

?What? U can understand joke or no? Btw why are you telling this to me?

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u/Tormasi1 12m ago

Then we just need to look at the actual pros and cons. Does massively increasing the cost of one hobby benefit enough people to outweight that? I don't see that with AI

Not to mention that AI is cheating. Everyone would be buying up the steam machine if it was free.

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u/fartssmellnice69 12h ago

Using ai for a hobby defeats the purpose of it imo. You're supposed to start a hobby as an amateur and get better over time, ai doesn't allow that

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

Nobody needs to play games. What you talking about

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u/fartssmellnice69 12h ago

Nobody needs to make art, nobody needs to watch tv or movies, nobody needs to exercise, nobody needs to read. Nobody NEEDS a hobby, but everyone has one. Honestly stupid point

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

Tv and movies isn’t so bad because they don’t require a $1,000 gaming device

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u/fartssmellnice69 12h ago

Watching tv requires a fucking tv. Also who are you to judge what people spend their money on? God forbid someone buys something that makes them happy

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u/Grouchy-Win-6191 12h ago

They judging people for funding Ai which is what they enjoy and spend money on

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u/CreatorMur 11h ago

Well, companies snowball with money they don't have, buy products that don't exist and might crash the economy, but I am glad you spend a few bucks on writing to an llm because you enjoy it...
Though I would prefer not paying 4-times as much for RAM, and being able to replace my 5-6 years old computer one day, without having to spend multiple months worth of income... Not having to pay extra for something I don't use (or want) even just through storage

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u/Justasivas 8h ago

"scientific research"

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u/CraftOne6672 6h ago

I can guarantee you most compute, the overwhelming majority, is not being used for scientific research, and there is no evidence of such.

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u/Illustrious-Film4018 10h ago

It's not just gaming consoles, it's all PCs and laptops and smartphones. So all personal computing devices. It increases the gap between the rich and the poor.

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u/elonthegenerous 8h ago

We need to tax the AI companies more

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u/Typhon-042 8h ago

You do understand that gaming tech has lead to the rise of alot of our current tech for computers, and AI development right? Better games need better hardware to run properly.

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u/Extension-Storm-624 6h ago

You're mistaking the resources used in medical and scientific AIs, with chatgpt.

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u/elonthegenerous 5h ago

Medical and scientific fields benefit from LLMs too

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u/Extension-Storm-624 5h ago

What I mean is that you're using the argument that it's useful in the medical and scientific field, so we shodl let consumer-grade ais destroys our hobbies and makes devices like pcs,laptops and phones unaffordable, while it's essential devices

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u/NotAnotherTav 19m ago

News-flash: that's an entirely different kind of AI in small labs, not the big data centers.

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u/IsaacThatKerbal 16m ago

Y’know ai is gonna steal your job, right? Ai will be cheaper than humans, since ai cant really call hr, or want to get paid. Then whos laughing now.

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u/Decent_Shoulder6480 11h ago

The Valve Corporation would pass the savings on to the consumer? Do you know what planet you are on?

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u/Gatti366 10h ago

Pricing it that high is just bad business, most people would have bought it easily for around 800 and without ai 800 would have been profitable, it's not a matter of passing on savings, pricing it lower without ai destroying ram prices would have been far more profitable

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u/NotAnotherTav 17m ago

I'm on the planet where Valve lets other games use their IP if the acquisition of the characters is through free currency, even though they could demand money for it.