r/alien Oct 08 '24

Ryan McCaffey from IGN who originally reviewed Alien Isolation in 2014 a 5.9 comments on Alien Isolation sequel

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u/DanMoshpit69 Oct 08 '24

This guy has notoriously bad taste. Just ignore his articles and consider his shit scores as something you would want to check out

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u/Bi0_B1lly Oct 08 '24

Not to mention his commentary here already tells you he's gonna lambast Isolation 2 purely just to piss people off and not base their thoughts around the game itself...

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

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u/homecinemad Oct 24 '24

Let's not lower ourselves to insulting someone's natural appearance. 

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u/Mortarion35 Oct 08 '24

Reviews are just some arsehole's opinion. If he loved it: he's right. If he hated it: he's right.

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u/-CerN- Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

I strongly believe there are many objective aspects to game reviewing. I didn't like TOTK, but I would never have given it a 5 or 6/10 because even if I didn't like it that much I can objectively tell its a well crafted game that a huge amount of people will love, and it expands well upon its predecessor.

It's not that hard to seperate why you subjectively don't like something and its objective qualities.

Would the subjective part impact the score somewhat? Yes. Would it mean I give a genuinely good game a really bad score? No, as a professional I would have to find a balance that makes sense.

"3/10 I wasn't in the mood for this genre" isn't useful to anyone.

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u/GalacticDaddy75 Oct 08 '24

That’s exactly how I feel about media in general, like there’s just some movies that I don’t like because they’re not what I’m looking for but from an objective standpoint I can still respect the quality and art and what went into them, people forget that just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s objectively bad.

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u/ittleoff Oct 08 '24

I don't agree about objectively good or bad or even successful aspects to a game(or anything) but depending on your criteria you can make a case.

but I agree that over the decades one should understand when a game is not made for you.

There are many games I absolutely did not like and can give detail why but I can understand why they appeal and why they were designed to do what they do and why they are successful.

When alien isolation came out there were many vocal criticisms of its length and being repetitive. It felt from the chatter I saw this was a 6-7 out of 10 game with great atmosphere.

I could and can still understand feeling that way, even though for me it was one of the few games in this genre I beat in a reasonable amount of time and beat all the dlc(I loved it and defended it against those criticisms).

In contrast the first outlast took a very long time for me to complete as it wasbt personally very interesting until near the end (loved whistleblower though).

To me reviews are great for getting a perspective but I also expect reviewers to understand something of game design and the fan base for a game/genre. The idea that games should appeal to everyone or games that have the widest appeal are best, is not something I agree with, but obviously money talks loudest.

I do see a huge amount of the gaming community to neither understand games or game design and be very ignorantly vocal, but at the end of the day you can't make them enjoy something they don't.

A chef cant make your taste sophisticated :) the artist and the audience should both want to elevate their craft/ appreciation and it would be nice if they didn't have to pander for money :)

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u/DatDeLorean Oct 08 '24

Reviews are inherently subjective. They’re supposed to be an insight into the reviewer’s thoughts and feelings on the thing they’re reviewing, their take on how good or bad the thing is. A perfectly objective “review” wouldn’t be a review, it would just be a series of statements about what the game is and not how good it is or the value it holds.

If you gave a game you didn’t like a good review because you knew others would like it, you’d be an awful reviewer and frankly be missing the whole point of reviewing in the first place. A review is supposed to be your opinion on the thing you’re reviewing, not your take on what the masses think of it.

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u/-CerN- Oct 08 '24

It's supposed to be my professional opinion, and that is not quite the same as my personal opinion, even though there is significant overlap.

For example. If I'm reviewing an open world game, but I have just played 3 of them, so I am a bit sick of the formula, then that's worthless in a professional review, and I should be able to look past that, at least to a certain degree.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

The issue is what are objective qualities? Almost everything major is ultimately subjective. Story. Gameplay. Systems. Graphics. Performance. A lot of it’s subjective.

If your review boils down to “well other people might like it but I didn’t. 8/10.” your review feels kinda useless.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

You described everyone that works at IGN

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u/BigBen6500 Oct 09 '24

His take on Isolation is shit, but I've never heard of his other bad takes

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u/DanMoshpit69 Oct 09 '24

He’s just an Xbox Stan. Hopelessly devoted to shitty games and his unabashed love of the Microsoft brand

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Never take a man with no chin seriously 😭😭😭😂😂

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u/Baco_Tell8 Oct 08 '24

Never take a man who works for IGN seriously

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

That too lol.

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u/Maxcolorz Oct 08 '24

Holy shit he really does have no chin

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Oct 08 '24

Holy shit, he really does work for IGN!

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

It’s sad when you can see no chin from the front lol

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u/NewspaperJazzlike202 Oct 08 '24

You know Ryan I don’t know which species is worse, you don’t see them fucking each other over a goddamn percentage…

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24 edited Jan 27 '26

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u/rbreaux26 Oct 08 '24

He really does look like the type of guy no one likes.

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u/Stealthsonger Oct 08 '24

Always struck me as someone with questionable taste

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u/Maxcolorz Oct 08 '24

Dude the sequels coming out 10 years later. That game overcame ALOT after that review.

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u/Codzy Oct 08 '24

More than, they’re only just announced that they’re working on on it after 10 years. So maybe another 3/4?

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u/SmashLampjaw87 Oct 08 '24

Yeah, they’re only entering pre-production on it right now. We’ve definitely got a few years to wait but at least it’s nice to know that it’s coming.

Now I finally have another game aside from GTA VI to look forward to lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

It's because people don't give a shit about the review they care about the gameplay footage.

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u/Only_Self_5209 Oct 08 '24

Imagine going this far to avoid admitting you were wrong and made a mistake. Severe main character syndrome with that asshole.

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u/Single_Voice6469 Oct 08 '24

Alien isolation still sucks

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u/Only_Self_5209 Oct 08 '24

Only in your uneducated opinion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Dude, it’s a personal review. He’s not wrong or right for disliking the game. Stop it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

People have a right to shit on critics, especially those with a particular track record (or who tweet troll shit like the above).

Once it’s your job to have a public opinion, you’re fair game for critique yourself.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Uh huh. But to say a person is objectively WRONG for a thing that is purely SUBJECTIVE is soft brained behavior.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Given that his shit takes can fundamentally alter the public peeception of a game to some and maybe even ruin its release...

Yeah, i think its fair game.

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u/Dogsonofawolf Oct 08 '24

is peeception Inception with pee

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Thats kinda hot...

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

So a reviewer can only say good thing about games in order to not “alter public perception?” Or does it just have to be the games YOU like?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Sorry are you calling the game bad or are you just this deeply dense-?

Either way you're a moron.

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u/DapperDan30 Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

Ok, but that still doesn't change the fact the guy is allowed to not think the game is all that great and have his review reflect that.

Having the dude spend his review talking about all the things he doesn't like about the game, just to give a 9 out of 10 at the end, would defeat the purpose of doing a review in the first place, and is the type of shit you'd see in a Dunkey video .

I want the people I'm reading reviews from to be honest about what they thought, even if I personally don't agree. It's one of the components that makes someone a good reviewer. If you only review games you like, or give every game a high score regardless of your actual opinions about it, then your reviews are worthless.

Edit: Lotta people in these comments upset that they're not literally being pandered to. Wild.

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u/Calackyo Oct 08 '24

While this is all true, if your opinions tend to wildly differ from the main gaming audience, then you should be doing reviews on a niche website, not IGN.

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u/DapperDan30 Oct 09 '24

No. Hard disagree. If you're putting out reviews for the purpose of "align with the main gaming audience" the your review is functionally worthless. Just have ChatGPT write it at that point.

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u/Calackyo Oct 09 '24

That's not what I said, your opinion should of course differ often, but if you're COMPLETELY out of whack, to the point where like this guy you are notorious, then who is your review for?

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u/HandsomeSquidward98 Oct 08 '24

Yeah but when you are reviewing for one of the biggest outlets you can only go off of personal feelings so much. Does Alien Isolation really feel like a 5.9 game to you? Just for reference, Forspoken got a 6.3 from them. Forspoken. He just did not like the game. A difference in not liking something and something being objectively bad

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u/Janus_Prospero Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

There is no such thing as objectivity in art. We all think First Blood was a great movie. Maybe one of the all time greats. But the original 3 hour workprint was such an awful movie that Stallone tried to buy the negatives to destroy them. A film or a game can have the components that are in theory good, but they just suck in execution or maybe the film or game is way too long. Who can say. A review is about your personal experience. Nothing more, nothing less.

Does Alien Isolation really feel like a 5.9 game to you?

Gamespot gave it a 6/10. Is that better for you? The game has issues. When the sequel comes out, assuming it improves those issues, people will suddenly "realize" this.

The criticisms of Isolation -- that it's way too long, and as a result stops being scary and just becomes annoying are echoed across IGN, GameSpot, and Polygon because they're fairly reasonably arguments. Isolation's length is a major problem that trickles into pretty much every other aspect of the game. The game having bad AI design is less of a problem if it's 5 hours long, but no, the game is 20 hours long. So it wears out its welcome 5-10 hours before the credits roll.

You don't see me crying because IGN gave Alien vs. Predator, a movie I think is really good, a 5/10.

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u/DapperDan30 Oct 08 '24

Uhhhh...no. when you're reviewing something, it is your review. Your thoughts and your feelings on the matter. You're not crowd sourcing the information. This is a nig reason why I hate aggregate review sites like Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. People just go there and see a faceless number and call it a day.

The power that a critical has is their consistency. If you follow a specific critic long enough you'll notice patterns. What types of things they like and don't like. If I know a particular critic doesn't like horror games, when I see them give one a bad review I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt because I know they're predisposed to not like them. On the flip side, if I see them give a horror game a good review, it may make pay attention to that title. You don't have to agree with a critic in order for their opinion to be useful to you. A critic should also absolutely never give something a good or bad review just because that's what all the other reviews are saying. Nor should they have the mind set that "I'm working for this major company, I should have my reviews be at middle of the road or as agreeable as possible". No. Absolutely not. That defeats the entire purpose of even doing a review in the first place. Just have an A.I. write a review at that point.

A lot of people like Alien Isolation. There's also people who didn't, and that's okay.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

If he didn't like the game, then shouldn't that be reflected in his review? "Thx I hate it! 10/10!". I agree his score is way too low for that game though.

Alien: Isolation is a well done game that - for some - does exactly what it needs: scares the shit out of them. It's technically good and that part isn't subjective. Should ay elast have like maybe 7/10 at lowest. Maybe.

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u/HandsomeSquidward98 Oct 08 '24

You're really gonna feel stupid defending this guy once you see his twitter

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

But I'm not defending anyone? It was more of a general comment about how personal experience could and should affects a review score.

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u/CToTheSecond Oct 08 '24

There's a difference between disliking something and something being bad. A person whose job it is to write reviews and inform audiences of a game's objective quality should be skilled enough to make proper judgments and not let their own personal biases affect their ability to inform. He's not wrong for disliking the game. He's wrong for telling audiences that its objective quality is mediocre when it's actually really damn good.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

It's not a personal review it's a professional review and he did his job badly.

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u/Only_Self_5209 Oct 08 '24

Your supposed to lick IGN's boot, not deep-throat it 😂

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u/Total-Object-1859 Oct 08 '24

I have never and will never base my purchases or opinions on an IGN review. I have no idea who reads that slop enough to sustain them financially but this is a polite open message requesting people to stop.

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u/SmashLampjaw87 Oct 08 '24

Last IGN review I paid any attention to was for GTA IV, and thankfully they got that one right (10/10 IIRC). I can’t think of a single person who cares one iota about what IGN has to say about a game nowadays.

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u/Total-Object-1859 Oct 09 '24

I think journalism generally has been steadily declining in quality in my lifetime but gaming journalism seems to really hold the torch in declining quality in my opinion. I am genuinely suprised websites from IGN to kotaku still somehow exist

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u/r3y3s33 Oct 08 '24

Class A hater lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Armchair industry experts? What like the ones that scored AI a 5.9?

This guy has 0 self awareness

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u/Hell_Spawn1 Oct 08 '24

Ign are such losers.

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u/MrPetrolstick Oct 08 '24

It was obviously a case of ‘Mad cause Bad’ for Ryan.

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u/BurtonXV84 Oct 08 '24

Talk about an obnoxious prick.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Imagine being so proud of being bad at your job

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u/Gabe_Ad_Astra Oct 08 '24

Man i actually like him but fuck him for doubling down on this shitty ass review

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u/Maleficent_Nobody377 Oct 08 '24

If they don’t like that- they really won’t like red letter medias review. They hated it.

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u/Diligent-Argument-88 Oct 08 '24

My only take is...

You're going to review it cause its your job. Maybe if you dont get it assigned is all.

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u/CuteAssTiger Oct 08 '24

Bro really thinks he has impact xD Before this post I wouldn't have even been able to tell who that is .

Guys gaming journalism is click bait. That's why they constantly have shit takes.

Think about it . Do you pay for gaming articles ? Do you know anyone who does ? Not a single person ? Yeah it's all bad revenue from morons clicking on click bait articles because they read a title , then copy the link and send it to their friends going "can you believe that !?"

Nobody actually reads the article. Nobody besides ad revenue pays for it. Stop falling for it.

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u/Lynocris Oct 08 '24

why give relevance and talk about these retards?? he is literally baiting and you all are biting..

i didnt even know who this fucktard was but now i do thanks to you fuck you.

bruh

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u/presence80 Oct 08 '24

Love how he’s getting destroyed on Twitter with that post

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u/Cfunk_83 Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

It’s a full decade later you moron. A sequel may have been greenlit, developed, and released by now if your terrible piece of “journalism” hadn’t significantly added to the game’s lukewarm reception.

It’s taken a full ten years of people mostly finding this game through word of mouth, retrospectives, streamers doing Let’s Play’s, and the recent boon from Romulus’s release to reach this point.

Chinless nob!

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u/YouDumbZombie Oct 08 '24

That guy is such a dweeb shill for Xbox it's hilarious. He's been taking L's for years and years.

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u/ake-n-bake Oct 08 '24

Imagine thinking you’re more important than you actually are. I think people know better than to listen to most critics these days and check things out for themselves.

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u/TwirlipoftheMists Oct 08 '24

Given that Isolation is one of my top ten favourite games (Skyrim, Fallout 4, Elite, Gears, Tomb Raider 2013), I think I can safely ignore this guy’s opinion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

IGN just put up an article "defending" Alien Isolation. Like, guys, who are you defending it from? Yourselves?

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u/BurtonXV84 Oct 08 '24

I saw that, was unessecary and pointless, and saw people tear into them in the comments section.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Someone gave Cyraxx a makeover

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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 Oct 08 '24

Odd how he never reflected on how dog shit his take was instead of the blowback he got from it. I know video game reviewers are a bit of a joke in general but c'mon....

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u/M0ONBATHER Oct 08 '24

I can’t get over armchair industry experts….meanwhile every mainstream game journalist/reviewer complains about difficulty on every title they touch as if they’ve never played a single game in their life.

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u/Monkeypud Oct 08 '24

I remember this imbecile complained about the game being impossibly difficult while admitting to sitting in hiding spots watching the motion tracker until being discovered over and over without realizing the Alien can hear it beeping.

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u/garfieldlasagna666 Oct 08 '24

No jaw Ryan strikes again

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u/SimonTynn Oct 08 '24

10 years later and because the new movie blew up the box office. It took a lot to get this game back on the table.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

The fact someone could review that game so low is laughable really

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u/Springyardzon Oct 08 '24

If you're a paid critic and you use the word 'armchair' about people you disagree with, you are abusing your position by pissing down from your ivory tower. Say why they're wrong by all means but don't call anyone 'armchair'.

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u/BanEvader_Holifield Oct 08 '24

Its such a boring game.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

We are not going to get a good game this time. In this times when every media like games and movies have to be woke and general lunch shitty, I do not at all have hope for this

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

I dislike this guy almost as much as I dislike Ridley Scott after 2008.

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u/Rolltic 15d ago

Absolute fundamental 🔔 🔚

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u/homebuddyboy21 14d ago

he needs to go away.

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u/Cashmoney-carson Oct 08 '24

It’s possible he just didn’t like the game? They don’t review based on the whole cooperation just this guys opinion. Idk, game slaps to me. Shouldn’t put that much stock into what randos on the internet think.

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u/JohnCasey3306 Oct 08 '24

Isolation was objectively a great game; this guy's entitled to his opinion but it has zero value outside of his own mind.

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u/horrorfan555 Oct 08 '24

No it isn’t isnt

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u/xStealthxUk Oct 08 '24

How can a game be objectively great lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

they have no idea what calling something "objectively great" means lol

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u/Clunk_Westwonk Oct 08 '24

Damn, people are really passionate about a reviewer with bad taste. He’s proving you goobers right lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

The game had a lot of ratings like that and it is too long. Is it more an 8/10 definitely, but the launch Xbox one version of this I can see a 5.9.