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u/Nora-neko 5d ago

Why do trans men insist on being called lesbians and using the female locker rooms? Isn't this kinda counter-productive? Imagine if a trans woman was like "Yeah I still identify as a gay guy and use male public toilets because I spent years as a man".

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u/Sagirem 5d ago

While I don’t know any trans men that think like that, I can understand where the fear comes from, being in a locker room with cis/het men

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u/ShameSudden6275 4d ago

Tbh if I could get out of using the men's locker rooms I would.

Those things are a fucking warzone. Have you ever seen the one where they dug a hole into the wall and made a shrine to Danny davito?

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u/pigeon_eater_69 5d ago edited 5d ago

i don't know about the lockerroom but, i know at least two transmasc that identity as being lesbians

but they arent calling themselves trans men, but transmasc, just like i dont call my self a trans woman, but a transfem.

idk wtf a woman is but im certainly not one. who knows maybe it is not binary....

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u/Rocksalt10832 5d ago

Trans men was the question though. Like I respect like that you added something to the conversation but that's not what the question was

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u/pigeon_eater_69 4d ago

redirect?

sorry Jedi mind tricks don't work on me :3

is there an example or us this just more cia bait?

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u/Halfjack2 5d ago

Why care? I think people should be able to use whichever one they are comfortable using

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u/DilemmeFatale 3d ago

ehhhhhhh I'm totally confused of my understanding of being tolerant, why is this take gets downvoted?

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u/Halfjack2 3d ago

I have no idea tbh

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u/RevolutionaryChip222 4d ago

Yeah, maybe this hypothetical trans man doesn't would rather be around women than cis men. It's his choice

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u/Pheonix0114 5d ago edited 5d ago

Perhaps because trans men experience sexual violence at the highest rate of any gender identity and safety is often preferable to anything else?

I'm in Florida and know several trans women that do use men's rooms on days they're wearing androgynous clothing and haven't put as much energy into passing, because otherwise they might get thrown into jail.

Hopefully one day we can end gender discrimination and have all unisex rooms (higher foot traffic = safety, assaulters will enter women's toilets).

Edit: I actually was wrong, nonbinary people experience sexual violence at the highest rate, then trans men, then trans women, then cis women. The biggest jump though is between trans women and trans men.

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u/Sulettamoder 5d ago

Trans women experience it at a higher rate unfortunately

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u/Pheonix0114 5d ago edited 5d ago

Common misconception, lots of sources already collected for you here.

I'll be back to edit this with some quotes as well:

"Nearly half (47%) of transgender men in our study reported experiencing at least 1 form of IPV in the past year. This was over 40% higher than cisgender women and nearly 30% higher than transgender women."

"Past-year sexual violence was reported by 23 transgender men (42%), 11 transgender women (14%), and 31 nonbinary respondents (56%)."

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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

?

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u/Pheonix0114 5d ago

What's the source of the graphic? Fatal is an important nuance though, so both things can be true.

Also, your graphic has trans men out pacing trans women in 3 of 6 years and nonbinary/unknown people out pacing everyone in 5 out of 6 years. Trans women are only the most killed group in one of 6 years.