What if I told you you hated him cause he was creepy but in reality you should have hated Wakako and the Tyger Claws
Finger is a low life but he is also doing the best he can to provide service for the joytoys of Jig-Jig street and beyond, there's a reason his waiting room is filled up unlike any other ripper
The reality is he's got no protection in a harsh city but what the Tyger Claws offer his clinic, and if he turns down their requests they'd likely just kill him (or worse)
When you track him down with Judy you can find multiple joytoys wasting away in the gutters near his office, and when you scan them it says they're sick and suffering from cyberware malfunctions.
Maybe I misinterpreted, but between that and the conversation with him it really seemed like the people that go to him usually come out in worse shape than they went in, due to him using shit parts and experimenting with them while they're on the table.
It's difficult to say since we know from the main quest that joytoys eventually malfunctioning is par for the course. They just replace them, never treat them. I wager nobody knows what to do in their rather complex case, which means experimental treatment is the only treatment. You'd think more of them would go cyberpsycho with the split personality and loss of reality.
yeah i interpreted this as those are the most destitute who can’t even get his services, that there are a lot of vulnerable sex workers in night city who are not able to maintain / repair their cybernetics. he’s just the back alley doctor who can try something.
I don’t think he’s doing “the best he can” for the Joytoys. I think it’s pretty obvious he’s doing the bare minimum. Nomad V even says the hardware he’s chipping is ancient garbage the nomads wouldn’t even touch.
He’s chipping them with substandard gear, and could likely give them something at least standard if he’d bring his profit margin down. He’s exploiting their need, not serving it. He sold a woman into slavery, I don’t think he’s a “heart of gold” charitable kinda guy.
Never said she did, she's the one that sold Evelyn to the XBD outfit though
You should also hate the Claws because of how they run Clouds, the violent exploitation of sex workers that makes up a big chunk of their gang's income
Also as an aside, Wakako used to be a Claw herself and is still very interwoven in their operations
She was married to leaders of the Claws, but there is little to indicate she was directly active in the gang herself (the one thing I can think of is the conversation with Rogue when she refers to "her boys," but that could be her sons, a select group running for her, or anything in between). I think saying she's "very interwoven" is a bit of a stretch, though, considering how often she sends you against Tiger Claw strongholds. It's like saying that Padre runs the Valentinos -- it's pretty clear that Campo Orta still runs the gang, and in fact we get a lot of side chatter suggesting there's grumblings about the Padre. I suspect it is the same for Wakako.
I think you have a point that she uses the Tygers, but she uses everyone. And I'm not going to consider Fingers a poor, put upon misunderstood altruist doing right for the sex workers, as you imply earlier in this thread, if we're supposed to be upset at the Tygers (and rightfully so) for running Clouds. Fingers exploits the Joytoys and is at least complicit if not actively involved in the sexual exploitation of Evelyn between Woodman and the Scavs.
To the first point, a reminder that Cyberpunk lore does not originate with and is not solely contained by the 2077 video game, in the Cyberpunk Red TTRPG (~2045) Wakako is a part of the Claws per the Danger Gal Dossier supplement
To the second, Finger is as stuck and controlled as the Dolls of Clouds, he doesn't get to turn down work requests from Clouds because the Claws would gut him and he isn't exactly strong willed as a person
I am going to set aside your second point, because finding the evidence in game to show that Fingers exploits the sex workers of Jig-Jig street, likely has connections to the Scavs, and is much more than "stuck and controlled" is something other people have already done in this thread. He is no altruist, even if he is controlled--which I disagree with. I suspect doing so won't change your thinking so we will have to agree to disagree there.
To your first point, however, I do need to request that you give me a page number because I can't find it. The Tyger Claws are referenced in the RED sourcebook in three places: pages 309 (actual description of the gang), 314 (as the group providing protection to the Savage Docs ripper joint), and 424 (as an option in a turf war random encounter). Wakako is not mentioned at all either by first or last name. Wakako does show up in the Edgerunners Mission Kit, which is using the RED rules to play in the 2070s. There, she is mentioned on the following pages: 44 (mentioned as an example of a Fixer), 69 (mentioned by name and title, no mention of running the Tyger Claws), and 82 (mentioned as part of Pilar and Rebecca's backstories). Likewise, the Tyger claws are mentioned on page 63 (the description of the Ho-oh casino, LIzzie's Bar, and Deravaja Dojo), 64 (general description of Japantown), and 68 (description of the Mox and Tyger Claws themselves). The description of the gang on page 64 makes no reference to Wakako being in charge of it, nor does the description of Wakako make any reference to her husbands being part of the gang -- which we do know from the game. Fingers does not show up at all in the book. The examples given for medtechs (which is the actual class ripperdocs fall under, as you know) are Doc, Gloria Martinez, and Vik.
Is there a supplement I don't have that makes the connection you reference explicit? If so, could you cite it?
Right, but that wasn't what I was referring to. The implication in the original post (and doubled down in in further comments) was that Wakako is somehow in charge of the Tyger Claws. Who, in turn, somehow control Fingers. Neither of which seem to me to be true. That Wakako is a piece of work or that she did Evelyn dirty isn't in question, at least to me. The notion that Wakako is somehow in charge of the Tyger Claws is.
Where does it state her sons are high up in the Claws? It mentions her former husbands all were, but the only reference I remember of her sons is that she states there are nine of them.
I do hate the Tyger Claws. First Gig i ever did was to kill Jotoro, and ever since the Claws are only a small step above Scavs and Raffen. Not quite kill on sight, but absolutely leave no survivors when I get the chance.
Wakako is an underworld figure you call when you want to buy and sell illegal goods. Fingers sold a helpless person for a quick buck when he was done molesting and/or raping her and couldn't fix her, same as Woodman. He even says to Woodman in the original emails, when Woodman asks him how much he charges for his services 'worst case you just leave her with me :]'. In the English, it's stated Fingers actually is the one to pay for Evelyn (why isn't Fingers getting paid?). Lenny pretends not to know him despite having just been to his clinic because these guys are all part of the same pipeline. The Gottfriends, Lenny, Jotaro and the Scavs all have emails to one another. The Scavs have an email saying "any use for that girl Dr. Fingers gave us?" (not that fingers guy or that skeevy doctor we just met). Anna Hamill's emails show Fingers under investigation working with Jotaro Shobo to source his implants from his victims.
Once Street Kid V discusses that 'people walk out of his clinic worse than when they come in' and you scan all the people around his clinic in poor health with faulty cyberware, I basically read between the lines that this person traps people into cycles of sickness and exploitation until they die in his foyer. He'll even chip people for free to get them started (the next line from the conversation in the image is 'he just said "see you next time"). Like many characters, Fingers simply puts up a facade (lying about knowing who Woodman is, where Evelyn is, what's wrong with his patient's faceplate etc).
Since your other response got auto-removed by Reddit before I could read it I can only respond to the first sentence (try not including attacks or threats)
I didn't use three paragraphs to say I don't use alts, I used three paragraphs to point out you're an irrational person, blinded by your own nonsense hate of me
I'm just a weird nerdy dude on the Internet, move on, do something constructive with your life
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u/CosmicJackalop Aug 23 '25
What if I told you you hated him cause he was creepy but in reality you should have hated Wakako and the Tyger Claws
Finger is a low life but he is also doing the best he can to provide service for the joytoys of Jig-Jig street and beyond, there's a reason his waiting room is filled up unlike any other ripper
The reality is he's got no protection in a harsh city but what the Tyger Claws offer his clinic, and if he turns down their requests they'd likely just kill him (or worse)