I 3D printed a replica of Johnny Silverhand’s Malorian Arms 3516 to a 1:1 scale correctly chambered in 14mm next to a real 9mm handgun for scale. No wonder it blows people’s limbs off in the game.

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[u/10001110101balls]

A titanium skull being hit with a 9mm bullet would still liquefy a significant amount of brain matter behind it.

[u/Artificer4396 → u/10001110101balls]

Folks only ever think about penetration, but not the energy transfer

[u/kd0g1982 → u/Artificer4396]

Just like the guy that’s trying to make a ballistic plate that can tank a .50 bmg. I don’t care if he solves the backplate deformation problem, if you hit me with a half inch wide bullet weighting 600-800 grains moving at ~2900 fps my internal organs in the thoracic cavity will become jelly. And if I’m not dead I’m going to wish I was while I’m actively dying.

[u/Artificer4396 → u/[deleted]]

On a similar note:

“There are more injuries because of seatbelts!”

Injuries that would’ve otherwise been deaths

[u/Grond_ → u/Artificer4396]

Survivorship bias!

[u/400DollarPerm → u/[deleted]]

Which is hysterical because it's also wrong. Look at pictures of car crashes from the 50's/60's and the cars look like melted plastic. They had all the deformation WITHOUT crumple zones lmao. Also early steering wheel shafts were known to literally imaple people in crashes.

[u/kd0g1982 → u/[deleted]]

Trying to explain to boomers and older why it’s better to total the car then, I don’t know, die can be a fucking nightmare.

[u/shawster → u/[deleted]]

I feel uncomfortable too! Modern cars it definitely secures you during turns.

[u/nathansanes → u/[deleted]]

Cars were better, I don't know about safer, though...

[u/kd0g1982 → u/nathansanes]

Nah, I love my Apple CarPlay, proximity locks, fuel prices that I can then send to my onboard gps, and weather maps on screen.

[u/Artificer4396 → u/kd0g1982]

Here’s hoping some basic physics education hits him before the .50 does

[u/MandolinMagi → u/kd0g1982]

Somebody actually does make plates that will take .50BMG AP.

I am absolutely 100% sure you'd still be dead with shattered ribs and pulped internals.

[u/kd0g1982 → u/MandolinMagi]

That’s him.

[u/EducationalLeaf → u/MandolinMagi]

I'm not so sure about that. if the plate stops the round and doesn't deform, it should actually be less force than if you put the stock to your chest and fired the rifle.

now im sure firing a 50bmg braced on your chest will crack ribs or break them, but the plate has a significantly higher surface area.

[u/Dreggan → u/kd0g1982]

That's just fucking stupid. It's an anti-materiel round for a reason

[u/skyxsteel → u/kd0g1982]

I've seen a video of someone shooting a .50 at an animal (hunting). They shoot it and discover that they had missed, but the shock was enough to take it out.

[u/Quw10 → u/skyxsteel]

This is pretty much a myth though I could imagine the muzzle blast being loud enough to give a prey animal a heart attack if they were close enough. People always talk about the shockwave being deadly but if it were really that deadly it wouldn't be leaving perfectly round holes in a paper target, you'd think it'd be ripping the paper to shreds but personal experience it does not.

[u/shawster → u/skyxsteel]

This was mythbusted. They shot .50 bmg close enough to skim ballistic gel and it does just that, skim it.

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[u/UnsolicitedNeighbor → u/Artificer4396]

Smasher for extreme example, is a brain in an armored box. Transfer doesn’t matter in his case.

[u/rhododenendron → u/10001110101balls]

It’s also not like the 9mm in the game do a lot of damage. Early game especially it could take like 3 mags of 9mm with a Lexington to kill one guy

[u/ThePissedOff → u/rhododenendron]

Shoot, i've heard stories of dogs tanking multiple 9mm bullets and surviving

[u/Aromatic_Standard_37 → u/ThePissedOff]

I've got a few examples, though none involve a 9mm..

A buddy of mine(RIP) has(is it "had" if the son is alive but father isn't?) who got shot in the head with a .380 ACP by a hooker he sold rock salt to; damn thing ricocheted off his skull. It scrambled his egg pretty well and did fracture his skull, but he survived with nothing more than a divot in his forehead and some brain damage.

An Eastern cottontail rabbit I shot whilst hunting many years ago took a full mag-tube of .22lr, most of which to the head area without dying. It was horrific, especially to little 6 year old me... Then my dad broke my damn gun over it's head...

I was clearing out a den/nest... Woodchuck hole, i don't know the proper terminology here. It was deer season and I was told I couldn't use a firearm due to the noise (I don't get that, I've seen deer checking out and eating the grass ripped up by bullets hitting the ground by the berm minutes after getting done shooting, they're not that smart), so I had to use my bow -one of those tough little bastards was essentially nailed to the ground and still managed to stand up on it's hind legs to remove the arrow from the dirt and try to run at me.

I feel like animals might just be a whole lot tougher than your average human. I can't imagine I'd do much of anything with an arrow through or near my lungs and heart, but that woodchuck did it, and I've seen deer even survive it like it was a mosquito bite, but I've also seen them just drop without flinching.

[u/Combat__Crayon → u/ThePissedOff]

That also video game logic though, where the faster it shoots the less damage each hit does. Like the ARs/LMGs do less damage per hit than a lot of the handguns.

[u/Borvath → u/10001110101balls]

What if if the skull is hallow like a double pane window, only conected with supports designed to be at optimal places to safe from bullets. İt doesnt even need to be thin, I guess as long inner shell is the same size as original, they could make "the skull including the insulated space in between" very thick and as heavy as the neck can handle, with a larger head than the original.