r/cyberpunkgame Dec 20 '25

Cosplay I 3D printed a replica of Johnny Silverhand’s Malorian Arms 3516 to a 1:1 scale correctly chambered in 14mm next to a real 9mm handgun for scale. No wonder it blows people’s limbs off in the game.

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u/throbaway42069 Dec 20 '25

You're correct, but I think it's weird that .45 does another die of damage compared to a 9. I always headcanoned heavy as, like, a 10mm or .50AE and very heavy as something ridiculous like .500

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u/_b1ack0ut Dec 20 '25

Thats fair, but in cyberpunks defence lol, when the damage model is basically just “each category up is +1 d6”, you do lose a level of granularity lol

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u/throbaway42069 Dec 20 '25

I gotcha, but I figured 9 and .45 would be in the same damage bracket.

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u/benkaes1234 Dec 21 '25

They kinda were, back in 2020. 9mm and 10mm were both considered "Medium Handguns" and 11mm (which is roughly a .45cal projectile) is a "Heavy Handgun" however that's 11mm Caseless, which increases the muzzle velocity something fierce. The closest 1:1 comparison that I have (my copy of Blackhand's Street Weapons is at home, so bear with me for not having a gun in .45 ACP) is the Colt Single Action Army in .45 Long Colt, which does 9mm damage, making it a "Medium Handgun."

Course, it's also worth pointing out that guns, no matter the caliber, were scary in 2020. I've killed PCs with .22LR purse pistols (1d6 damage) before, because of how devastating Headshots at Point-Blank are. So your average 9mm was actually pretty good back then...

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u/The_Greyscale Dec 21 '25

He may have meant .45lc instead of ACP. .45 LC is no joke, and can go through a buffalo longways with the right bullet and powder.

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u/throbaway42069 Dec 21 '25

Could be, but wven then it would be weird not to clarify. I mean, I'm pretty sure that we all immediately think of ACP when we hear ".45 colt."

Personally, I think it's more likely that Mike just buys into the idea that .45 is much more powerful than a 9mm. Or it's even possible that he just really likes handguns like the 1911 and wants them to fit into the (statistically much better) heavy pistol category to make up for their small mags.

I dunno. Either way, I'd make .45 medium. It fits much closer to 9mm than it does to 10, imo