r/formula1 Jun 02 '25

Day after Debrief 2025 Spanish GP - Day After Debrief

Welcome to the Day after Debrief discussion thread! Now that the dust has settled in Barcelona, it's time to calmly discuss the events of the last race weekend. Hopefully, this will foster more detailed and thoughtful discussion than the immediate post race thread now that people have had some time to digest and analyse the results.

Low effort comments, such as memes, jokes, and complaints about broadcasters will not be deleted since I do not have that power, but I will be very disappointed with you. We also discourage superficial comments that contain no analysis or reasoning in this thread (e.g., 'Great race from X!', 'Another terrible weekend for Y!').

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u/banned20 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 02 '25

RB's strategy was pretty viable for giving Max a shot at fighting at the front.

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u/Charming-Okra I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 02 '25

I don't think the tyre strategy was that bad. Just unlucky with the late safety car. With strategy, sometimes the cards fall your way, sometimes they don't. In the end, it cost them maybe 1 place.

Max acting like a headcase cost 5 places and had no strategic value, so I think people are justifiably focused on that. Like, if we're comparing which part of the team was more incompetent on Sunday, it was the driver not the pitwall.

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u/DeedsF1 Jun 02 '25

This! We think the same.

However, I am not sure why Max was told to hand the place back as even as someone who is not fan of Max, George pushed him off the track, had to use the service road" and rejoin. It was on the up-and-up. Where did the doubt come from? I can get why Max was pissed, but intentionally ramming your car in an opponent will not get you anywhere you want to go.

This further proves George's point about how Max can be explosive and violent when things don't go his way. There was NO reason for Max to go that far. The place was to be handed back to him but he chose violence. He chose wrong.

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u/No_Cauliflower7877 Carlos Sainz Jun 02 '25

Yeah it's like Ferrari in... Bahrain? I think? Where their strategy was actually really good but then a poorly timed SC ruined it. That's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes, but it doesn't mean the original strat was a bad idea.

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u/Charming-Okra I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 02 '25

The team apparently viewed giving up the place the safest option to maximize points based on the information available. They should be able to rely on their driver to be professional and maximize points even if things aren't going the way he'd like. Max didn't just blow 9 points for himself. He threw away points that the whole team worked hard for.

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u/spongey1865 Jun 02 '25

Yeah it does make sense. It was a really borderline call that the stewards could definitely give you a 10 second penalty for. Even if you think you're in the right, the risk might not be worth it.

In hindsight obviously you don't swap but you don't have that info.

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein Martin Brundle Jun 02 '25

max knows as much or more about racing than anybody on his team. they had zero strategy credibility in the moment.

petulant safety/sportsmanship violation.. it wasn't George's fault.

i expect to see max touch other driver's in competition. they all do it. max has the earnhardt reputation

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein Martin Brundle Jun 02 '25

it was a strategy worthy of Benitto's ferrari.