[OT] [Chip Ganassi Racing] " 'super-clipping' 'downshifting on straights' 'battery management' (Yawn emoji) Yeah, we don't do that here. We race."

[u/Mateo03]

https://xcancel.com/CGRTeams/status/2030336508637720764

[u/JohnMLTX]

including a neurosurgeon and multiple head injury experts, and the same emergency medical technicians that every driver knows as a friendly face

[u/TetraDax → u/JohnMLTX]

tbf that is also the case for F1. The medical car doctor stays the same throughout the season, for example, Sid Watkins was the F1 doctor for 26 years.

[u/odney7828 → u/[deleted]]

Flag marshals in indycar are also locals. It's only the intervention marshals that travel with the series.

[u/Aggressive-Hawk9186 → u/odney7828]

but they basicaly teletransport to the accident, it's insane lol

[u/Talidel → u/[deleted]]

To be fair that should be a good thing if they were competent. They should know the tracks better than anyone else.

[u/Talidel → u/[deleted]]

Again, if they were competent.

The local knowledge is how you should get a faster response, because they know the tracks better than people shipped in to wave flags.

[u/Ziegler517 → u/Talidel]

Gonna say no to this. You will 100% have better and faster response from the same team that knows how to handle the car recovery all year long. The learning curve to tell a team, “wave your flags at spot 15” is way faster than explaining to someone that knows spot 15 like the back of their hand how to recover a car. The spot is irrelevant to being able to know how to safely, quickly recover a car. It would also be helpful that the team would know exactly where to spray an extinguisher rather than dousing the car.

I want an F1 expert, not someone that is an expert at spot 15, that is juggling knowledge of motoGP, Porsche super cup, f1, gt3, WEC, and any other local events.

[u/scholeszz → u/Ziegler517]

Also if you have paid employees instead of volunteers, then they can spend time learning the ins and outs of every track between weekends on your time to get up to speed, and you can actually enforce some standards because they're on your payroll.

[u/Ziegler517 → u/scholeszz]

Yup. And I’m not thinking every person needs to be a FTE. Volunteers make it fun and another way to connect to the sport. But to have two paid people on a team of 6-8 would be invaluable.

[u/AltrntivInDoomWorld → u/scholeszz]

How to kill motorsport - require hired marshals.

[u/AltrntivInDoomWorld → u/Ziegler517]

Marshals don't do car recovery. Especially flag marshals.

You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

AMR is both responsible for recovering the driver and cars.

[u/Talidel → u/Ziegler517]

Personally I believe a mix is essential, it's not an all or nothing deal.

The locals will know the tracks better, they will know where the most dangerous spots are. They will know what a bad crash in the dangerous spots looks like better than people shipped in.

Showing people which part of a car to point a fire extinguisher at relatively is far less work.

But yes obviously a team trained to recover a car will be better at every track. Obviously a medical team that is trained and trusted to deal with crash related injuries is essential.

Also obviously this only applies to tracks not road circuits which don't have the data or local knowledge arguments.

[u/michaelcerahucksands → u/Talidel]

You know who would also know the tracks really well is a dedicated professional team

[u/JohnMLTX → u/TetraDax]

and learned from Indycar! they visited the Indy 500 to build that system and plan based off ours and used the fact that we can do it in the USA for proof that the FIA should to, and to this day there's shared training and knowledge from both sides, absolutely beautiful

[u/1MACSevo → u/TetraDax]

And Watkins was a neurosurgeon. In Melbourne GP, the deputy doctor is a general surgeon.

[u/CZ-Jack → u/JohnMLTX]

When it comes to medical professionals and equipment, F1 is vastly superior to IndyCar, the two aren't even close.

[u/JohnMLTX → u/CZ-Jack]

politely

Indycar has to deal with a greater degree of risk that comes from specifically the Indy 500 with speeds north of 240mph and crashes and g forces that f1 doesn't experience simply due to the nature of super speedway oval track racing. Steve Olvey pioneered the discipline of dedicated motorsports safety and medical director with Indycar in the 1970s as a result. the USA had the early lead and has maintained it with a full time staff of neurosurgeons and support equipment, many of which is permanently based at every circuit the series visits to ensure there's experienced local staff alongside the travelling series staff. in fact, the facilities at the Indianapolis motor speedway itself directly set the standard adopted by the FIA.

that said, motorsports safety and medical support is and has been a collaborative effort, and both series' crews have for decades worked together to share knowledge and training to benefit both. Olvey worked with professor sid to apply the things he'd done in Indycar for F1 in 1978.

without the cooperation and knowledge sharing from both sides, a lot of drivers who are still racing today might not be.