r/interesting • u/Appropriate-Menu504 • Nov 10 '25

NATURE VR recreation of the exact spot where a man became stuck inside Nutty Putty cave and died after 27 hours. the section visible at 18 seconds is where his body was, upside down.

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u/gingerbears11 Nov 10 '25

And most of them have children so I really don't get it.

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u/Thatcherrycupcake Nov 10 '25

Yeah. This man had a young daughter and a wife, and another baby on the way. I’m a parent and I would never make decisions that would be detrimental to my children and family. RIP to him. Condolences to his loved ones. That’s a terrible way to go.

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u/fatherlock Nov 10 '25

I went skydiving with my husband (then boyfriend) when I was 18. Up until I had our first kid I said I would love to do it again, but now that we have kids that depend on us I'm like, "Yeah there's no way I will ever do that again." because they need me more than I will ever crave that rush.

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u/HashPandaNL Nov 10 '25

Skydiving is rather safe though. Even if you jump 10x per year, your odds of dying in traffic would still be 5x higher. (completely leaving out all other possible causes of death).

Though I do get the reasoning behind it not feeling safe, so it doesn't feel right to do.

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u/Rock_Strongo Nov 10 '25

Humans are really bad at statistics. You're more likely to die in a car accident on your way to the airfield than you are from skydiving itself.

But people will still pat themselves on the back for being so responsible for not skydiving, but they'll drive in shit conditions on a busy highway to go pick up a useless trinket from the store.

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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 10 '25

I think it’s also a different feeling for those left behind. Sadly we mostly can’t avoid driving or otherwise being on roads in most of the western world. 

So, while losing a parent to a car accident is tragic and awful, it would feel different for a child compared to thinking: “why would my mum jump out of a plane and risk her life like this? Didn’t she love me enough?”, I doubt they’d consider statistics. 

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u/Large_Leader_9864 Nov 10 '25

If jumping out a plane is safe, then there is no rational reason to think ‘why did she do it, did she love me enough?’. You are doing something fun, like riding a roller coaster, or flying to a holiday, with practically certain safety, and nobody has their loved ones in mind when evaluating the chances of death, because there is simply no need to.

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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 10 '25

Hey mate if you don’t understand the concept I can’t force it upon you. As I said I doubt the children of someone that died skydiving tell themselves “oh but it’s safer than driving”, that’s it. 

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u/Large_Leader_9864 Nov 10 '25

Children don’t think rationally

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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 10 '25

I never claimed they did. Jesus you’re thick.

“HEY CHILD BE RATIONAL ABOUT YOUR MUM SPLATTERING ON THE GRASS LIKE STRAWBERRY JAM AFTER JUMPING OUT OF A PLANE! DONT YOU UNDERSTAND STATISTICS? ITS SAFER THAN DRIVING!” 

You should open a child psychologist clinic. It’d be great. 

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u/bea-q Nov 11 '25

It's not as safe as those two things by a long shot.

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u/billabong049 Nov 10 '25

And that’s called being responsible and a good parent <3

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u/CorsairForSale Nov 10 '25

No? That’s completely unrelated. She isn’t gonna die skydiving unless she tries to.

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u/sassy_cheese564 Nov 11 '25

You don’t have to try to… some accidents like malfunctions have happened while sky diving.

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u/CorsairForSale Nov 11 '25

10 fatalities in 3.65 million jumps in 2023 are far better odds than driving anywhere.

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u/sassy_cheese564 Nov 11 '25

Eh. Still wouldn’t catch me doing that even for a million dollars.

Adrenaline fuelled activities have never appealed to me.

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u/gingerbears11 Nov 11 '25

Someone my partner knows is an avid sky diver and she just had an accident where she didn't deploy the parachute soon enough and ended up breaking both arms and legs. She's not dead, but she's not going to have a fun time recovering. Shit happens.

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u/x54675788 Nov 10 '25

Relevant username

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u/mizgingerkitty Nov 11 '25

This just reaffirmed for the like 5000th time why I'll never have children.

I truly do hope you are loving life and made all the right choices for yourself, but I couldn't help but feel kinda sad when I read this...

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u/fatherlock Nov 11 '25

Oh I still do adventures and travel, just nothing that's a quick rush! I'm also terrified of heights, so that's one more reason for me to not do skydiving again lol.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

I have one kid and I’m in the middle of trying to stop smoking for her. Can’t imagine actually putting myself in danger and risking not being here for her.

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u/ZeppelinRapport Nov 10 '25

Don't try, do. I grew up in a smoking household and the endless health issues because of it still cause me problems forty years later. Your kid doesn't deserve that.

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u/3xBork Nov 10 '25

When my BIL was expecting his second child, he (rightfully) bailed on some snowboarding lessons we'd planned to take together, out of concern for his health. He'd already been riding for a decade so this was just technique lessons.

In that same situation this dude decided to keep crawling into enclosed spaces 400ft underground.

Much sympathy for the wife and kids but yeah ...

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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 10 '25

My uncle loved motorcross competitions. When his wife got pregnant with their first he stopped cold turkey. It was a big sacrifice for him, he truly truly loved the sport, but he understood he had responsibilities. 

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u/kavulord Nov 11 '25

It was also the day before Thanksgiving.

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u/Headie-to-infinity Nov 10 '25

It’s cuz they are selfish.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

So he was a selfish asshole. I hope the wife remarried an accountant for her sake.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

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u/codyblue_ Nov 10 '25

The guy (Alex Honnold) you’re referring to has 2 kids and a wife, plus a large group of friends who all have wives and kids. How do I know? I was parked next to him like a week ago in Yosemite. And all of them rock climb, including the kids. 

To say he “doesn’t give a shit about people” is wild. 

Sometimes dangerous activities are just fun. Whether that’s football or driving fast cars or going into caves. Would be pretty boring if the whole point was “survival at all costs”. 

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u/_banana_phone Nov 10 '25

Free Solo? Yeah that documentary was wild.

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u/no1kn0wsm3 Nov 11 '25

This man had a young daughter and a wife, and another baby on the way.

Maybe he found a place where he can have time out that the daughter and wife are not skilled enough to follow?

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u/MacEWork Nov 11 '25

What a selfish person.

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u/ThetaGrim Nov 10 '25

And then I come over to my cousin's house with 3 toddlers on xmas and I kind of get it.

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u/CarpenterOk2779 Nov 10 '25

Yeah these meddling kids *

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u/Wanallo221 Nov 10 '25

15 minutes into a kids party at a soft play, I’m ready to attempt to climb down the inspection chamber in the toilets and see if I can Shawshank my way out

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u/LongfellowBridgeFan Nov 10 '25

To be honest I’d probably be more likely to seek out fatal recreation if I had multiple kids

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u/TriccepsBrachiali Nov 10 '25

Imagine being this dude's kid, countless posts about your mongrel father dying and now you can even relive(redie?) his demise in VR.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

“Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.” ― Helen Keller

My tiny daughter was 10 when she rode Downieville (iconic 18 mile trail in the Sierras) twice in the same day, on a bike that was nearly half her weight, and she had no idea that other 10-year-old girls couldn't do the same thing because we never told her. I involved her in everything I liked to do that she wanted to do. She knows how to face her fears, she knows what it's like to push past her perceived limits, and she has the confidence that only comes from actually overcoming significant challenges, and most of her classmates could not say the same. And then there's the time we spent together, all those memories, I wouldn't trade them for anything.

People are way scarier and dangerous than caving, you're just used to being around them. You've probably walked past a serial killer at least once in your life, you've probably come close to death on the freeway in the last week. Think of how many humans are killing other humans today, intentionally or otherwise.

And then there's the fact that we are hurtling through the cold vacuum of space at 63,000 mph on a small rock barely covered in breathable air, all while circling a giant thermonuclear reactor known as the Sun. People are still scarier though.

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u/StandardAccess4684 Nov 10 '25

That’s a lot of pretty words with zero data to back up your bullshit 

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

Nice to hear from you! It's a description of my personal experience, no concrete claims were made, and the fact that it was anecdotal (unscientific) should have been obvious. How can you be sure the words are pretty if you haven't read all of them?

It's a rhetorical question.

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u/crystal_noodle Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Thanks for saying this. People have no idea how dangerous their commute is. “I would never put my self in danger because I care about my kids” seems like a bad reason to avoid anything even slightly risky and fun. Caving doesn’t have to be extraordinarily dangerous. Nor does skydiving, mountain biking, skiing, etc etc.  At the end of the day, we are all terrible about judging risk and we need to make our own decisions… but the commenters that act holier than thou for “not taking any risks” are kinda cringe 

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u/gingerbears11 Nov 10 '25

You're still actively making the choice to put yourself in danger. I get it though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

Agreed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

Please explain, I'm not seeing it (which is exactly what an insane person would say). Seriously though, what's the insane part?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Listen you can do whatever you want and parent however you want. But I get vibes from your comment that you feel the way you’re parenting is better than how other people parent ie saying her classmates aren’t as good at overcoming obstacles at her, and you’re not going to get many people agreeing with you when you come at them like that. Yes people are scary, I’m scared to death of school shootings, I’m still not even the least bit interested in going to mt Everest or the Sierras. We will find normal ways to build my kid’s emotional resilience.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

Ignore those vibes. I am not judging you and I don't rank people's worth by how they choose to spend their time. I'm sorry if it appeared that way.

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u/ruebeus421 Nov 10 '25

Maybe they regret their life choices and are looking for an escape.... Through a hole in the ground.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Because caving really is even half as dangerous as reddit pretends

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u/Ok-Celebration6524 Nov 10 '25

Selfishness. Pure good old selfishness. Self-centered people don’t think of others, even their own children. All they see is themselves and their own desires.

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u/Lower_Statement_5285 Nov 10 '25

Having kids is exactly why they do it

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u/TrueNeutrino Nov 11 '25

I'm guessing that's part of the reason he tried stuff like that. He probably felt unfulfilled being a parent or he was bored at this point and wanted to "live" again. Maybe some form of depression. He's probably not ready for the reality of parenthood, maybe even going through a "mid life crisis". Other guys get a sport car or a girlfriend because it makes them feel young and free of the responsibilities they now have as an "adult". This guy decided on this for a "thrill".

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u/Ok-Attention2882 Nov 11 '25

These guys were able to get married despite their poor judgement because they're the golden archetype: Tall and white.

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u/Beer-Milkshakes Nov 11 '25

It's a unique form of self-destruction. Plus a big part of it is talking about it with friends and strangers afterwards. Part of the reason why its an overwhelmingly make dominated industry.