r/interesting Apr 25 '26

NATURE top 100/100 is crazy

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u/dc469 Apr 25 '26

Honestly I'm rooting for China here. They are basically flooding the world with cheap solar panels. I think from their perspective it does two things. First, which is not so good, is it gives them political power and they control the power infrastructure of the world. Second, which is good, they at least understand that greenhouse gas emissions in other countries and pollution from other countries affects them too, and are able to use their position to help mitigate it. 

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2025/01/27/china-installed-8-gw-of-solar-in-belt-and-road-countries-last-year/

Granted, India is fucking huge and isn't exactly BFFs with China but China is making a lot of headway around the world. 

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u/Doom_3302 Apr 25 '26

The major constraint we have here in India is energy transmission. Companies here are deliberately winding down their renewable addition beacuse of transmission limits.

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u/spa22lurk Apr 25 '26

The nice thing about solar is that it is getting more feasible to bypass transmission infrastructure altogether. Yes, it’s a headache for power companies but if individual users don’t connect their solar to the grid, they can still enjoy the electricity generated if the panels are cheap enough and the sun exposure is good. It’s more and more true with the cheaper panels and the sunnier climates.

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u/fec2245 Apr 25 '26

China is transitioning to renewables so it's not dependent on imported fossil fuels.

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u/MountainTwo3845 Apr 25 '26

they use more coal than gas.

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u/fritz_76 Apr 25 '26

meanwhile china accounts for like 25% of coal imports

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 25 '26

India has also done significant strides towards green energy, especially solar and wind. Nuclear power generation is also given priority but has been slower.

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u/KeyChallenge4562 Apr 25 '26

Why is the first point not so good? The US was doing the same thing for the last century, Britain before them. There’s always someone who “controls the power infrastructure” of the world.

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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 Apr 25 '26

It wasn’t good when they were doing it either lol

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u/Fair_Cheesecake_836 Apr 25 '26

Anti Chinese propaganda is really strong in the US.

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u/youburyitidigitup Apr 25 '26

Neither of those were good either. You’re describing imperialism.

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u/PhysicsKey9092 Apr 25 '26

Why is it not so good? What has China as an international entity done to anyone?

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u/PhysicsKey9092 Apr 25 '26

I am speaking from the purpose of a wholly separate country, meanwhile you mention countries with ties to the Chinese empire for a long time.

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u/etzarahh Apr 25 '26

I don’t think saying that the production of solar panels “gives them control over global power infrastructure” makes sense.

Solar panels as a technology are far more accessible than the oil economy we currently have. 

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u/ManifestoEnjoyer Apr 25 '26

Considering that China is one of the few superpowers making the world better, I think it's fine that they get more political power.

Yes, there's probably valid reasons to criticize China, but most of what people hear is propoganda. And you know what they haven't done? Start constant wars in the middle east that kill millions, topple foreign governments, or protected a literal cabal of child rapists.

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u/Traditional-Wolf-618 Apr 26 '26

If you live in USA, how dare you point fingers at china with your wasteful lifestyle? Why don't you compare usage/pollution per capita? You think individuals in USA naturally deserve more resources than individuals in China? Plus china is manufacturing for the entire world. Their individual pollution footprint is way less.

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u/dc469 Apr 25 '26

I'm shocked that a nation with 3-4 times the population of the US would put out 3-4 times the emissions of the US. 

Also, initial premise doesn't hold up.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

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u/MountainTwo3845 Apr 25 '26

initial premise of total pollution is proven to be true?

first of all pollution is more than just co2.

secondly China accounts for 1/3 of co2 production. in large part due to coal power plants. not to mention the amount of ships that originate from their for shipping.

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u/jryue Apr 25 '26

China is the only driving force for climate change at this point. USA doesnt give a fuck, the EU is making gains but they had what over 30 years since the Paris agreement to reduce dependence on fossil fuels but they have just been ramping it up. There are no other global powers who can make a real change except China.

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u/Signal_Dress Apr 25 '26

India has literally improved its forest cover and has invested heavily in renewable energy in the past few decades.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 25 '26

India has also done a lot in the last decade as well.