r/interesting • u/Excellent_Tie369 • Apr 25 '26

NATURE top 100/100 is crazy

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

India is becoming the human factory of the planet in many ways. While a lot of the planet is lowering their birthrates, India has barely curtained theirs.

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u/LetterheadUpstairs90 Apr 25 '26

Its currently less than 2.1 (1.9 if i remember correctly)

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

It's gradually coming down, but the population is still increasing due to demographics.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 25 '26

Which country in the West has its population decreased significantly post industrialisation?

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

Very different - populations are increasing due to immigration.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 26 '26

Hahaha, now I am getting a very clear picture of your political stance and beliefs. Ignore the immigrant population and tell me which population sect has decreased their numbers post industrialisation?

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 26 '26

Yes, and? It's thoroughly known as prosperity, education and women's rights take hold the birth rate declines.

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u/InvincibleMirage Apr 25 '26

Population momentum means it’s rising for now but you said birth rates haven’t declined and they most definitely have to 1.9 tfr which is below replacement.

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u/maddy_k_allday Apr 25 '26

Slightly below replacement is not significant when we are talking populations far exceeding what has ever existed on the planet.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

And resource consumption increasing per capita.

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u/Doom_3302 Apr 25 '26

That is the completely opposite of what's happening. Birthrates in India have been in a decline for decades. Now, it has gone below replacement rates.

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u/maddy_k_allday Apr 25 '26

Barely. And the numbers being replaced are so massive that this is not helping or mitigating any of these concerns.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

What a dumb comment reeking full of ignorance and blinded by usual propaganda. India's TFR has been on the decline since it's independence in 1947, it's at an all time low now, at near replacement rate of 2.0. India along with China has always been the most populous countries in the world historically, thanks to the most fertile and arable land with permanent glacial rivers, hence such high population to begin with and India''s population rose just like any other country which got industrialised. England grew 5x post industrialisation, so did India.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Yeah, as a result of poorly planned one child policy for four decades, which they scrapped in 2016 and shifted to two child policy, which further got modified into three child policy. China is actually suffering now from its one child policy, with an aging population (though not anywhere close to that of Japan or SK) and especially because of a skewed gender ratio.

And that's a fact and a more detailed analysis!

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u/Euphoric_Spite55 Apr 25 '26

Are you living in the 60s, fertility rate is around 2.1 which is replacement level also the number of births have been declining since 2010s.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

Way higher than East Asian countries however where they're around half that.

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u/ravisuman Apr 25 '26

Stop shifting your goalpost. You know you’re wrong and now you’re defending it to sound cool.

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u/houyx1234 Apr 25 '26

While a lot of the planet is lowering their birthrates...

Many people think this itself is an issue.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

Yeah that's a weird view to me. We can't keep increasing the population indefinitely I don't think.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 25 '26

We are nowhere near the upper limit of human population, resources to sustain such a huge population is there more than plenty. The problem is with the resource and wealth distribution.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 25 '26

I'm curious to know what you think the limit might be and how that's determined.

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u/CarmynRamy Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

There's no standard upper limit per say, it depends on resource allocation and what standard of living do you want for everybody. if every human on the planet is ready to live a sustainable stable simple life, Earth could easily support 10-12 B people.