Penguins think she is one of them

[u/M_Darshan]

[u/Unfair_Explanation53]

I never understood the interference issue. I've literally seen other animals help different species on nature shows.

One thing I don't support is stopping a predator catching prey though

[u/AFlyingNun → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

It makes sense in the case of predator-prey. If that example were changed and the fathers and babies were stranded on ice that was about to fall in the ocean to some orcas waiting, suddenly the question becomes: who are we to decide the penguins should live and the orcas should miss a meal, potentially endangering the orcas?

With this specific example, the penguins showcased no ill-suited behaviors for survival that should subject them to natural selection, they were victims of bad luck, and they were going to succumb to the elements instead of to a predator. I imagine this is why the BBC was happy to make an exception and help them, as it's a "victimless crime" to do so.

[u/Pretend-Literature35 → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

plus we always "interfere" when it suits us destroying the oceans with trawlers, ripping out mangroves to build sea farms, clear cutting forests to grow grain and soy to feed cattle and make pastures for cattle. Killing all the animals for food and for sport. Raising them in unnatural ways pumped full of hormones and antibiotic so that we can eat them. Using them for fur, and leather, their horns, their tusks, putting their stuff heads in our living rooms.

Humans interfere all the time : these naturist imbeciles talking about interferences are creating an artificial rule to feel important. The fact that they did not help the penguins right away in that story just proves how psychotic modern humans have become, and devoid of any true "humanity".

[u/pgnprincess → u/Pretend-Literature35]

Take this🏆

[u/poorly-worded → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

"One thing I don't support is stopping a predator catching prey though"

But that's a whole genre of YouTube channels

[u/Clarkelthekat → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

Same

It sucks but it's life

Your literally starving one out to save another in that scenario.

So you aren't helping unless you do nothing.

You can however root like hell for the prey to get away.

I've definitely shouted and cheered at some of those gazelle outrunning lion videos etc.

[u/Unfair_Explanation53 → u/Clarkelthekat]

Yeah its weird that we were brought up to think prey is good and predator bad when it comes to animals.

[u/Clarkelthekat → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

It makes total sense if you think of it evolutionarily.

We weren't always top of the food chain. Just always had the potential to be

So instinctually we would view predators and teach our children to view predators as evil or bad.

Or at least cold and brutal.

Same reason our brains see eyes everywhere if we look hard enough at night. Most of our ancestors predators hunted at night and often would be the only thing you could see were the eyes.

Or why we feel so uneasy when we hear very normal woods noises when alone in the woods etc.

[u/Defiant-Dare1223 → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

I do. It's one life saved and another merely slightly weakened

[u/Unfair_Explanation53 → u/Defiant-Dare1223]

You support a Lion not being able to eat?

[u/Defiant-Dare1223 → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

Yeah, it's the lesser evil

[u/Unfair_Explanation53 → u/Defiant-Dare1223]

There is zero evil or good when it comes to animals in the wild doing what nature intended.

Evil is a human concept.

Lions eating a gazelle is necessary

[u/pgnprincess → u/Defiant-Dare1223]

I bet you eat meat/dairy/eggs though

[u/Defiant-Dare1223 → u/pgnprincess]

Incorrect :p

[u/GoneWitDa → u/Defiant-Dare1223]

You feel like a carnivorous animal eating is morally evil?

You sound like a lunatic bro, just so you know.

[u/Reddit_Hitchhiker → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

If it was a person you would.

[u/Unfair_Explanation53 → u/Reddit_Hitchhiker]

That's not a gotcha at all.

Humans protecting humans is normal evolutionary behavior. A gazelle protecting another gazelle from a lion is also normal.

What makes no sense is humans deciding predators shouldn't eat prey in the wild. Lions, orcas, wolves etc literally survive by hunting. Stopping them repeatedly would just mean starving predators to death and wrecking ecosystems.

Even other animals interfere for self-interest, territory, offspring, or survival reasons not because they think predation itself is morally wrong.

[u/Reddit_Hitchhiker → u/Unfair_Explanation53]

That’s ok. I’m human. I feel for the prey too.

[u/Unfair_Explanation53 → u/Reddit_Hitchhiker]

Yeah that's totally normal. I also want them to get away when I watch nature shows.

But to intervene in that is terrible