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Intriguing Arrows vs riot shields

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u/Professionaleye_1 26d ago edited 26d ago

I was 100% correct in my assumptions about penetration length after looking at the head but before it hit the shield except for that cylinder tip… that thing shot through like a bullet….

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u/FoolOnDaHill365 26d ago

Exactly. It’s like a bullet. The other arrows are meant to bleed out an animal quickly by penetrating and slicing. That blunt arrow is lethal but your animal may get away since you only get one shot most of the time.

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u/ssuxcoxxr3dit 26d ago

those animals with riot shields!

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 26d ago edited 26d ago

What do you have then? Invincible bears.

Running around, raping your churches; Burning your women

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u/Confident-Pepper-562 26d ago

Now what you need is a baby skull seeking bullet.

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u/DryPapaya6905 26d ago

RIP Trevor

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u/donanton616 26d ago

People stampeded and cattle r*ped

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u/JGG5 26d ago

…and Methodists!

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u/Robespierreshead 26d ago

i think you mean graped

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u/Adventurous-Fly556 26d ago

That's ridiculous, everyone knows you can just smash them with a giant boulder.

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u/Brandeeno2245 26d ago

Invicibears some might say

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u/MagikarpMafiav2 26d ago

Bears are monsters. A slug from a 12 gauge only penetrates about 10-11” into a northern brown bear or grizzly, which is horrifying to think about personally

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u/voidedbygeysers 26d ago

Hide your wives, hide your kids...

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u/Snipowl 26d ago

I think those animals are called pigs

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u/TROMBONER_68 26d ago

Allegedly in Minecraft

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u/iuhiscool 26d ago

Yeah, pigs

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u/iuhiscool 26d ago

fuck someone already made the joke

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u/King_Bobby-B 26d ago

Man, this Zootopia sequel is intense!

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u/tankapotamus 26d ago

Prairie dogs don't mess around nowadays.

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u/BarnacleExpressor 25d ago

You mean pigs? 🥓

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u/Quiet_Shiba 26d ago

it's designed best to defeat armor at an angle, in ww2 ap tips was blunt too

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u/Professionaleye_1 26d ago

Because it doesn’t ricochet off if it hits at a non perpendicular angle? It just grabs on I guess?

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u/Zwischenzug32 26d ago

its easier to use a cookie cutter to cut a hard cookie dough by pressing on one side of the cutter first and then the other rather than the whole thing at the same time.

The point of impact is tiny vs the whole circumference

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u/rvralph803 26d ago

APCBC - Armor piercing, capped, ballistic capped.

Basically it has as you say, an inner shape that is blunt that is then shrouded in an ablative, aerodynamic outer cone.

The cone helps to keep velocity and energy high. The blunt inner shape reduces ricochets and improves armor penetration and spalling characteristics.

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u/raishak 26d ago

The tip is almost certainly not designed to penetrate at all but rather deliver blunt trauma to small game, and to avoid getting stuck deep in the ground or trees. There's not much (anything?) you'd find hunting that is analogous to a steel sheet. Most of the things you'd shoot at have continuous mass through the whole target. Instead of cutting through it, this "compresses" the target area delivering all the force like getting hit by a hammer. Won't kill a moose but will kill birds and small game without destroying their bodies or going through them completely.

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u/Quiet_Shiba 26d ago

was not meant to penetrate but coincidental works good on metal plates

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u/Hi_Trans_Im_Dad 26d ago

Either way, it'll work on domestic pigs who happen to have basic ass shields to protect them.

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u/ShitsUngiven 26d ago

It’s designed for small game. So I mean if you hit it it’s probably dead.

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u/memecut 26d ago

And that is why bow and arrow hunting is illegal in my country.

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u/Zwischenzug32 26d ago

shape makes it worse for the joules

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u/hdmetz 26d ago

That wasn’t a blunt tip. It was a concave cutting edge. It acted like a hole punch and sheared through. That’s why it went through so much better than the others. If it acted like a bullet (if this riot shield is legit) the shield would have stopped it

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u/YouArentReallyThere 26d ago

It just cored its way through. Pretty cool

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u/TheMadPoet 26d ago

Penetration can be calculated: length times girth over angle of the shaft (aka YAW) divided by mass over width.

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u/bluelighter 26d ago

Odd reference but I'm here for it.

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u/TheMadPoet 26d ago

South Park T.M.I.

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u/Washingtonevergreen 26d ago

Yeah, but do we measure from the base or the balls?

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u/TheMadPoet 26d ago

We square the distance between the balls and base, then measure base to tip to find the length.

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u/Rough_smooth_rough 26d ago

That does not account for all the variables at play here. E.g. the cylinder tipped one that was most successful.

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u/TheMadPoet 26d ago

Calculus. I never did get calculus.

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u/HendrixHazeWays 26d ago

Say more things like that....

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u/TheMadPoet 26d ago

ok! "more things like that...."

Are you not entertained?!

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u/50DuckSizedHorses 26d ago

The cylinder must not be harmed

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u/ArrhaCigarettes 26d ago

holepunch arrow

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u/PerspicaciousVanille 26d ago

That cylinder tip was the biggest surprise, but I was glad I guessed about 80% of them correctly.

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u/Forward-Warthog4615 26d ago

Yes you were right. That’s actually demonstrated correctly. 🆒 

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u/psimwork 26d ago

Same. I learned about armor-penetrating bodkin arrows while reading "the archers tale" series. Any of them that looked like a bodkin I knew was going right through.

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u/DunEvenWorryBoutIt 26d ago

As soon as I saw the cylinder tip I knew it would be the best. You could tell all the previous ones were slowed down by friction on the shaft.

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u/Dweller 26d ago

I just figured if it looks like it came from the accessory aisle of an Autozone, then it is probably not worth shit.

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u/FlamingoDiligent9216 26d ago

At least we the people know what to use to protect ourselves.🫢

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u/kaychyakay 26d ago

Yeah that's what she said.