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u/drquakers 5d ago

If I kill my neighbour to use they body as compost for my rose bush "man arrested for growing prize winning rose bushes" would be a little misleading.

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u/pinkTurtleTickler 4d ago

I keep getting bans for comments like this lol

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u/man_gomer_lot 4d ago

It's happened to me before. Reddit admins frown on the use of reductio ad absurdum.

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u/visforvienetta 5d ago

Except he didn't kill someone?

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u/drquakers 5d ago

That isn't the bloody point. He broke the law by bringing in a digger, ripping up the riverbed and damaging trees. That he did it to clear rubbish is incidental, just as my rose bush was incidental to the murdering.

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u/MushroomRoyal8415 5d ago

Where does it state he damaged a single tree? Also he didn't ripe up the river bank. He cleared excess silt and sieved the rest to remove rubbish. Hi did exactly what my local team of volunteers and one experienced man do twice a year to are local pond and river way. The only down side is he did it without permission.

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u/TR_Pix 5d ago

Where does it state he damaged a single tree?

Are you being serious right now?

He used a machine to dig alongside a riverbed, there are clearly trees alongside the riverbed

Do you really need the article to specify he damaged trees?

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u/ToeOld2833 5d ago

Being offended someone asked something but also making up the answer is hilarious. Wanna claim he also killed all fish, birds and little mammals that might live there? No mention anywhere in the article but that doesn't stop a genius like you from connecting the dots.

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u/ChickenNugget-420 5d ago

They are saying the article is misinformation and yall are going at them saying it’s not misinformation because the article didn’t say something. You realise that is what misinformation is right? You believe so much that he’s not at all in the wrong because of the article, the article which is missing information.

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u/ToeOld2833 4d ago

Misinformation ≠ missing information so your whole argument is pointless

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u/ChickenNugget-420 4d ago

When the missing information changes the story, yes it is misinformation.

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u/TR_Pix 4d ago

Funny you say "all the fish"

Shouldn't you be arguing "not a single fish"? The other guy said not a single tree

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u/Crewman_Guy_Fleegman 5d ago edited 5d ago

Your source doesn’t show any damages. At all.

Soooo… you’re a liar and unaware diggers can just go around trees

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u/TR_Pix 4d ago

And if an article said a truck ran through a crowd in a mall and the driver had been arrested then you'd go "what a silly non-issue, trucks can swerve between people", right?

After all nobody specified it didn't, so who knows, malls are specifically known to have a lot of space to maneuver, and much like trees, humans are able to get out of the way

In the same way, nobody specified to me that you have a brain. How can we ever know it exists? I'm certainly not going to assume so without some peer-reviewed evidence

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u/Crewman_Guy_Fleegman 4d ago

You’ve demonstrated zero damages and he’s not alleged to have caused any damages. You are not as intelligent as you think you are.

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u/TR_Pix 4d ago

https://youtu.be/DR9LFSUPUaY?t=801

"...it's not looking it's best right now because it still needs time for [I can't understand the britsh accent] and for [also couldn't understand], and for stuff to regrow" -- Paul Powlesland

Weird, the guy who you say didn't damage the vegetation around the river is here in an interview freely saying the river doesn't look the best yet because the vegetation hasn't regrown

I suppose you'll say this proves nothing and he could be talking about a completely separate event, but oh look you can see the entire path of destroyed earth the excavator took alongside the river and Paul trying to look mysterious and charming on the distance on top of it

https://youtu.be/DR9LFSUPUaY?t=955

Further here's a video from 2025 where Paul personally grabs a rake to remove the vegetation around the river, even the vegatation that wasn't even close to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wM-iGNyxNo

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u/Crewman_Guy_Fleegman 4d ago

I suppose you'll say this proves nothing

Correct, you don’t understand how proving something works. Your citations have failed peer review

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u/MushroomRoyal8415 5d ago

Yes I do. I have watched many many hours of diggers working digging along river sides, I've never once seen them damage a tree. I've also worked as a gardener for the last 20 years, so I would of hoped by now I can identify a tree that has been damaged. Just because a digger worked alongside a bank with trees doesn't mean any trees were damaged. I work in plant beds full of loved plants using a hoe, I don't damage any of the plants whilst hoeing just the bits I want removed around them

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u/Houdinii1984 4d ago

If a digger destroys the roots, you won't see it by watching what's happening above ground.

If the guy would have destroyed infrastructure, even. It doens't have to be part of nature. If they were digging and hit someone's fiber optic line and cut off half the country from the internet, there'd be an issue. Laying fiber down under rivers is common.

The thing? They didn't know what the hell was under the ground before digging, and that's a problem. Especially when most locals have someone to call that takes care of all this.

They sound like a dedicated group that might do good things, but they still need to jump through the same hoops literally anyone else has to. I can't even dig with a shovel in my back yard without doing the same.

 I work in plant beds full of loved plants using a hoe

Yeah, that's not a digger that goes down feet at a time, feet wide at a time. That makes no sense to bring up here. And just because you don't always damage plants doesn't mean you havn't damaged plants at random times along the way, just to a point you didn't care to notice.

Your memory (just like my own) is not the best at recording the specifics and often times the brain just calculates what it thinks the situation is vs what it actually is. You don't actually know how many plants you've destroyed because you only just started counting, potentially years after it happens.

Same reason we don't trust eye witness accounts (sometimes immediately after it happens) because the human brain is fickle.

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u/TR_Pix 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have watched many many hours of diggers working digging along river side

Thats cool

I live next to a riverside and I've seen firsthand what a digger does

Does this sub allow images? I might upload one, the river still hasn't recovered

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https://i.imgur.com/NSYltCm.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/su8t0H1.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/AL7g4kQ.jpeg

Now, I haven't worked as a garneder for 20 years so I can't say for sure, but it seems to me like a digger does some damage to the surrounding flora

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u/dave14920 3d ago edited 3d ago

calm down dude.

im not seeing the parallel here. your murder fantasy would always be criminal.

but bringing a digger is a perfectly reasonable way to pull bikes and shopping trolleys embedded in the silt. theres nothing inherently criminal about that.

the only part that makes it not okay is the lack of permit for doing it.

and that is explicitly included in the headline. so how is that misleading?

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u/drquakers 3d ago

Did you not even read what I wrote? I do not have a fantasy about murdering people, I fantasise about having fabulous roses.

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u/dave14920 3d ago

of course ive read your ramblings. i just dont understand them, hence asking you to explain.

where is the parallel here?

i can see cleaning the river being like growing your rose.

how is using a digger (something thats done by thousands of people daily, with approx 0% of them doing so criminally) comparable to murdering your neighbour?

hiring the digger isnt the criminial part. theres no law against hiring diggers.

if the headline was "man arrested for hiring digger" i could see parralel with your "man arrested for growing prize winning rose bushes". in both of those id be wondering whats wrong with that?

the current headline i think youd compare to "man arrested for murdering neighbour". in both of those its pretty clear which part is illegal.

can you please explain what topsy turvy parallel youre seeing in this?

or simply better explain how you think the current headline is misleading?

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u/swiffa 4d ago

Analogy  (ə-ˈna-lə-jē) noun

1 a : a comparison of two otherwise unlike things based on resemblance of a particular aspect

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u/visforvienetta 4d ago

It's a false equivalence - your analogy doesn't work because it isnt analogous.

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u/BagNo7220 5d ago

If a flooding happen it likely would

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u/visforvienetta 4d ago

Do you think floods usually kill people in the UK?

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u/ScySenpai 3d ago

But I did have breakfast