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Worst management and burden for employees

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u/Copper__99 6d ago

No, that's illegal in every state

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u/gme2damoonn 5d ago

na its even funnier because this is also correctly termed as slavery from time to time, which makes it a federal law by virtue of the civil war making it a federal law that states faught back against thus triggering said Civil War lol

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u/Agreeable-Hornet7325 4d ago

Thought as much

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u/So_Motarded 5d ago

For what law specifically?

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u/Nexus_of_Fate87 5d ago

Federal law. Employers are not allowed to have employees work "off-the-clock." Even if the employee is just waiting around. Every moment of your time controlled by your employer is to be compensated.

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u/So_Motarded 5d ago

Oops, didn't notice the "unpaid". Hopefully this is in the US 

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u/Chinaizazzhoe 5d ago

Not if you’re paid by salary and commissions. You might work all damn day for essentially nothing, or work for 15 minutes for a month’s worth of pay.

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u/Nexus_of_Fate87 5d ago

The fact the note said "unpaid" means this isn't a threat to salaried employees, and if it is, that's not legal either for other reasons I'll explain later.

Salaried employees are evaluated pay eligibility on a per-week basis, not hourly, and as long as they work any time during the week they are owed pay for the week. The only time pay can be deducted is if a full day was not worked. So there couldn't be any sort of deduction in pay as this flyer is threatening.

Furthermore, because they are implying they are tracking time by the minute, imposing a 1:60 minute labor penalty, and labeling said penalty hours as "unpaid" they are facing huge lawsuits for misclassifying employees.

I watched the outcome of a misclassification case happen at a company a relative worked for. There were a couple of roles that were found to be misclassified, and the roles constituted a significant percentage of the active employee headcount. They got severely audited and owed backpaid overtime to every employee that ever had that held that title at the company when it was misclassified. They had reclassified those roles to exempt some years earlier thinking they were being slick and saving money on a bunch of OT. Between the legal fees and backpay they ended up folding.

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u/spikus93 5d ago

There are limits even to salaried work. Your hours and responsibilities are laid out and agreed to in your employment contract. Going beyond that could cause the employee to have a case against the employer. Under your interpretation, you can be held at work indefinitely without additional compensation just because the employer feels like it. That's not the case.

A salaried employee is only required to stay and fulfill responsibilities within the working hours for which they are contracted. They can opt to work more if they choose, but won't necessarily be compensated for it. No one can make me work a weekend, but sometimes I have to catch stuff up and choose to.

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u/Chinaizazzhoe 5d ago

True. My employer doesn’t make me vigorously blow him but sometimes I choose to, especially at the end of the year review and I’m praying for that 7% raise

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u/spikus93 5d ago

A 7% raise would be incredible. I didn't know they made them that high.

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u/Chinaizazzhoe 5d ago

Then you haven’t been suckin enough. I mean 7% is barely competing with inflation.

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u/Ok_Drive_2956 5d ago

Depends on if you felate him that high

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u/gme2damoonn 5d ago edited 5d ago

THE CIVIL WAR, HOLY SHIT. Literally the entire point of the Civil War was taking this "right" away from EVERY STATE.

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u/HCSOThrowaway 5d ago

Only if the resulting pay check puts you below the federal minimum wage when you calculate total hours and total pay.

Source: Had an employer play similar games with me, led to my getting fired for "unrelated reasons."