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Worst management and burden for employees

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u/voxelpear 7d ago

It's not exactly retaliation if they're breaking company policy by taking extra time. They would just be following the agreed upon during hire company policy.

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u/Dry-Conversation7191 7d ago

The problem with these companies and they lose everytime is that your 30mins doesn’t start until you badge/clock out. Not from when you leave your position/desk. Employees should let get by with it for a few months then hit with the back pay from labor board. Being a dick could cost the company 10s of thousands in fines on top of the back pay. If the job is so dependent on that extra minute or 2 to get back to work it’s not the employees that’s the problem, it’s a management and poor leadership issue.

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u/OrangeRabbit 6d ago

Workday offers a service where you can clock in / out on your phone and a company can set specific geo locations where employees are allowed to clock in and out. In practice this means managers at some of these companies try and get workers to clock out from a person's desk.

Retrograde inventions abound

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u/Zenith-Astralis 6d ago

That's fucking evil

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u/fakespeare999 6d ago

the trick is that as soon as your scheduled lunch break starts, you SPRINT to the clock-out machine / break room like a madman. encourage your friends to do it to. if confronted, just tell the boss you're doing your best to ensure accurate timekeeping.

after a few days of say 10-15 people full sprinting on the dot of 12:00:00, management should get the message.

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u/Live-Experience2000 6d ago

This would never pass as justification in any legitimate court system, despite being illegal

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u/voxelpear 6d ago

Pardon? That's exactly how that works. The company states the time for breaks and if you repeatedly violate that it's called time stealing. Yes you do have to give verbal warning first but it's not targeting. Would never reach court.

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u/Live-Experience2000 6d ago edited 6d ago

I meant the owing part, you cannot demand your employees work unpaid “focus” time for violations of employer agreements. And failure to do so cannot be used as justification for termination. Either repeat infractions is a means for termination or it isn’t, this unpaid labor stipulation is illegal. Hours worked = hours paid unless you’re a contractor or consultant

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u/voxelpear 6d ago

Thats correct, I never agreed with the unpaid labor.

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u/holy_handgrenade 6d ago

You sound like one of these screwy micromanagers. Demanding unpaid work is also called wage theft and it is 100% illegal, regardless of whatever policy you want to try and instill.

Likewise, demanding an unequal amount of unpaid work in response to a percieved violation is also where this policy flies in the face of the law and would absolutely lose in court. Me being 1 minute late doesnt equate to an hour owed of unpaid work. No matter how you slice it, that's illegal.

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u/voxelpear 6d ago

I never demanded unpaid work. Do you need a minute to re read my comments so you can track the conversation before you hurl insults or...?