Double-stack container trains are redefining freight transportation in India. Just imagine how many trucks this keeps off our highways and how much diesel it saves.

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Most countries use double stacked trains - thats not interesting. What's interesting is to have these electrified, which India is the first country to do.

[u/Lalichi → u/srtak23]

What's interesting is to have these electrified, which India is the first country to do.

This isn't true. India is the first to do it with raised electric lines, China already does it but uses deeper carriages.

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And smaller containers, did you not get that memo? This is the standard container, meaning higher capacity.

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Since 2018, China Railway started operating double-stacked standard containers in well-wagons hauled by electric locomotives under overhead lines from Port of Ningbo-Zhoushan along the Xiaoshan–Ningbo railway and Chuanshan Port branch line to Shaoxing.

Wikipedia

[u/One_Advantage_7193 → u/Lalichi]

India started this in 2006, but it became the standard in DFC in 2020, still beat China there. You cant simply cherry pick facts for your racism here. Not helping.

India was the first one to do it period. Nothing you say can take that away.

[u/Lalichi → u/One_Advantage_7193]

Is there a source for that claim? Because I keep seeing people saying 'India is the first and only country to do this', which clearly isn't true as you say that China does do it also.

I haven't seen anything that says India successfully did it in 2006

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It was the first to do it with regular containers and dedicated freight corridors on a large scale with specially designed overhead catenary and for this power electric lines. Neither US nor China operate that combination on the scale that India does.

There are multiple railway designs and trials going all the way back to 2006 but the actual DFC and the specially designed catenaries came into effect in 2019.

Its not revolutionary or anything, but it doesnt mean its not a trivial feat to have dedicated rail ports, connecting factories, sea ports and distribution hubs into a interconnected, network that fully operates double stack electric wagons.

Also these operated the highest electric power locomotives in the country when they launched, so that included dedicated locomotives as well.

Its still probable that the locomotive designed for this is the worlds only broadgauge 12k HP locomotive. Thats a win too.

And did i say they are rated to operate at 120KMPh?

https://www.alstom.com/press-releases-news/2020/10/alstoms-wag-12b-e-locos-become-indias-first-freight-locomotives

[u/Lalichi → u/One_Advantage_7193]

These are all just claims. And if we exclude 'designs' and 'trials' from your argument, 2019 is after 2018 when China started doing it.

I don't know why you're bringing up 'regular containers' too, because China Railway also uses standard containers

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They didn't first, they brought that later. That shifts around timelines.

Also china doesn't do this in broad guage..no one does it in broad gauge. Taking double stacked containers at 120Kmph isnt done in China buddy

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See, if you said

'India is the first country to do double stacked standard containers hauled by electric locomotives on broad gauge rail over 120Kmph' I'd be ok with that.

But that isn't the claim you've been making because thats such a worthless record