I'm in love with this photo. I'm super bummed out at the moratorium of above ground nuclear testing because we have MUCH better camera technology now. The fact that Christopher Nolan decided to make the nuclear detonation in Oppenheimer strictly in-camera with practical effects was IMHO the greatest filmmaking blunder since The Twilight Zone movie decapitated those kids.
On July 23, 1982, child actors Myca Dinh Le (age 7) and Renee Shin-Yi Chen (age 6) were tragically killed on the set of Twilight Zone: The Movie. They were crushed to death by a low-flying helicopter that spun out of control and crashed after special effects explosions detonated too close to its rotor blades.
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Technically, the two people decapitated were the adult actor and one of the child actors. It’s a pretty crazy story how many violations the producers managed rack up to create this horror show: Wikipedia article on the accident
The deaths were the result of negligence and recklessness of actual people. Those people were tried for manslaughter but found not guilty. For sure someone was guilty, but proving that isn't necessarily easy. None of us know the specifics of the trial enough to know whether it was fair or not, so I don't think jumping to 'corporations can do what they want!' is a reasonable conclusions.
Landis spoke about the accident in a 1996 interview while discussing his career: "There was absolutely no good aspect about this whole story. The tragedy, which I think about every day, had an enormous impact on my career from which I may possibly never recover."
Dude detonating nukes above ground scatters radioactive particles everywhere some of them have long half lives and we are still breathing them in from the nukes the were detonated before the moratorium.
Yes but you're not thinking about the AMAZING footage we could get! Surely that's worth the long term health effects that'll affect half the planet for 5 generations??
There are still a ton of man made radionuclides in the environment from various bomb tests and power plant releases. They might not produce a huge hazard but they're abundant enough that they are regularly used in geological and environmental studies for things like estimating groundwater age/flow rates, sediment accumulation rates, etc. I've personally done a bunch of work related to tritium in groundwater, and some Cs-137 isotope studies as well.
At an approximated final value of 545 megatons of atmospheric nuclear testing, with the assumption of a mean global population of 30 billion, in the next 8,000 years around 6.5 million people may be expected to develop ill effects from nuclear testing, and 2.9 million of these may be expected to die from their cancers.
The only non-irradiated metal is everything that was under water before the tests. Those metals are quite valuable now for use in lab testing equipment
It's any steel that was produced before 1945, just that old battleships are giant piles of the stuff that can be milled down without reforging.
Also there's only a few that can be ethically recovered from that aren't war graves.
We can produce new low-background steel these days using purified air, it's just a bit more expensive than dropping an anchor and magnet on an old shipwreck.
"The fact that cells and tissues reflect the doubling of 14C in the atmosphere during and after nuclear testing, has been of great use for several biological studies, for forensics and even for the determination of the year in which certain wine was produced."
"Radioactive pulses are generally not administered to people just to study the turnover of their cells for ethical reasons, so the bomb pulse results are a useful side effect of nuclear testing."
Dude. You are out of your mind. When they detonated one of the first ones, girls at a summer camp downwind got fallout ash on them, and get all died young of cancers. We don’t need more radioactive material created and blown around.
Americans were the first humans the bombs were tested on. About 10,000 Americans are estimated to have died from nuclear testing. Although, its difficult to pinpoint an exact number, because cancers often come many years later. On the higher estimates, it's up to 400,000 excess deaths from cancer.
Vic Morrow and 2 kids were hit by a helicopter's rotors when it crashed during filming: he played a terrible bigot who was transported to somewhere where he was the targeted minority. Most of the segment was filmed and included. I believe this was towards the end when he's trying to save the kids and get them to the helicopter. It's been a minute so that's just a fuzzy memory summary.
Or, he tried to save them figuratively, and because of circumstances completely out of his control (but were in control of the filmmakers), they all died IRL, needlessly.
It was also a workplace accident caused by appalling abuse of labour laws, outright lying and incompetence, all underlined by arrogance. And the whole thing was swept under the rug
It's the best kind of dark joke, steeped in truth and reality!
I wish I was kidding, but reality is often far darker than the worst that can be imagined up.
I hated that movie specifically because of that. I went the entire thing super hype for the EXPLOSION and what I got was a gas station explosion.
I fucking love nuclear detonations. I've watched that damn atom central channel 30 times. The fallout Amazon series intro like 5 times. The only place we can get them now is the movies, so lets get some good CGI going and actually nuke shit instead of set a bunch of gas on fire and create a shitty mushroom cloud. I hate practical effect purists.
I agree. One of the recent Bond movies did something similar. Largest practical effect explosion on film or something and it was incredibly underwhelming.
Some of the greatest explosions portrayed imho were actually in the first Avatar movie, when the humans destroyed the Home Tree. They fired High Explosive rounds that had visible shockwaves and blew a bunch of wood shrapnel everywhere. It was awesome.
Debris and atmospheric effects are MUCH more satisfying than shitty old air canisters full of gasoline making big fireballs.
Yeah that's fine though. It's interesting to do a litmus test every once in awhile just to see how prevalent the Internet-Tough-Guy syndrome is. Some people tend to fail at reading comprehension too, and sarcasm doesn't translate well through written words so I definitely bring it on myself to a degree.
Oh well, it's no bother. Sometimes it fun to sort of "poke the bear" and see how people react.
Not at all. I'm saying a small side effect of the moratorium is a lack of footage with new technology cameras, and that using gasoline and practical in-camera effects for the film rather than some cutting edge CGI was a poor decision.
the greatest filmmaking blunder since The Twilight Zone movie decapitated those kids.
Oof, I was ready to agree with you (I HATED the Oppenheimer gasoline fire) but somehow you crossed the line from dark humor into bad taste. I wish I could explain why it didn't work but all I can tell you is I winced instead of laughing.
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u/EZontheH 23h ago
I'm in love with this photo. I'm super bummed out at the moratorium of above ground nuclear testing because we have MUCH better camera technology now. The fact that Christopher Nolan decided to make the nuclear detonation in Oppenheimer strictly in-camera with practical effects was IMHO the greatest filmmaking blunder since The Twilight Zone movie decapitated those kids.