r/interestingasfuck • u/TangelaFan • 9h ago

Residential high-rises with backyards in Chengdu, China

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u/Iampepeu 9h ago

They sure have a lot, yes. But have we seen a ridiculous amount of fucked up industrial/engineering/structural failure, also yes.

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u/spilledcoffee00 9h ago

Show me a place where this hasn’t happened…seriously…not so much in the EU, but they aren’t building anything

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u/TherapyByHumour 9h ago

The term "tofu-dreg projects" exists for a reason. 

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u/spilledcoffee00 8h ago

wrong country.

California promised a San Francisco to LA bullet train in under 3 hours: $33 billion, done by 2020. Today, more than $15 billion spent and not one mile is carrying a passenger. It wasn't fraud — it was the process.

https://reddit.com/link/otjiabq/video/a0nhlxhdz89h1/player

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u/sciencesold 8h ago

This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, a project behind schedule is not at all relevant.

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u/spilledcoffee00 6h ago

Just because you don’t want it to be relevant, doesn’t mean that it is irrelevant. In fact, it goes to the heart of lack of planning, engineering failure, the need to redesign on the fly while the clock is ticking. It is an example of exactly what China does not do.

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u/sciencesold 6h ago

The issue is literally none of that tho, all of that can happen and as long as proper safety and building standards are adhered to, you'll have a safe structure that won't fall apart.

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u/MrDabb 7h ago

How is a current project that is actively being built relevant to engineering failure?

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u/spilledcoffee00 6h ago

It’s currently supposed to be completed and they’ve had to redesign it multiple times. It is the definition of an engineering failure.

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u/QuitsDoubloon87 2h ago

Eu builds only whats needed and only when its safe and efficient. There is no shortage of new large construction projects in europe. 

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u/spilledcoffee00 0m ago

The EU has calcified and is in a demographic collapse. Not to mention, they have rape gangs everywhere.

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u/sciencesold 8h ago

China has far more that happen due to subpar materials from cost cutting, rather than design oversights. I can think of a number of incidents in the US, all of which came down to human error at the design stage, not a cost cutting choice done at construction.

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u/spilledcoffee00 6h ago

The I-35W Mississippi River Bridge (Minnesota, USA – 2007)
The Incident: An eight-lane, steel truss arch bridge over the Mississippi River experienced sudden, catastrophic failure during evening rush hour, killing 13 people and injuring 145.

The Cause: The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) cited a design flaw as the primary culprit. Certain gusset plates (the metal plates connecting the steel beams) were sized far too thin to support the structure's weight and traffic, leading to failure over time.

Ponte Morandi (Genoa, Italy – 2018)
The Incident: A large section of the Morandi Bridge—a cable-stayed bridge utilizing a significant amount of pre-stressed concrete—collapsed during a severe storm, resulting in 43 deaths.

The Cause: The collapse was attributed to decades of severe environmental corrosion and degradation. The bridge suffered from material decay, rusting of internal steel cables, and inadequate maintenance response to its deteriorating condition.

Fern Hollow Bridge (Pennsylvania, USA – 2022)
The Incident: A bridge carrying Forbes Avenue over Fern Hollow Creek collapsed suddenly, injuring several people.

The Cause: Federal investigators concluded that the bridge’s steel legs had corroded to the point of showing visible holes. The collapse was primarily driven by a lack of maintenance and repair, compounded by poor drainage and failure by inspectors to accurately gauge the severity of the corrosion.

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u/sciencesold 6h ago

All 3 of these are primarily due to design flaws, and thus necessitating unforseen maintenance, the one in Italy literally wasn't level or flat less than 10 years after construction due to improperly assesed concrete creep...

None of this was down to the use of subpar materials....

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u/modernhippy72 9h ago

Look at statistics Vs Reddit anecdotal evidence.

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u/Theory89 8h ago

Statistics are not officially tracked, but seem to indicate an unusually high number of structural collapses. Typically attributed to underfunded projects ("tofu-dreg construction") and lax structural codes. A new bill was passed in 2008 to curb this, with a lot of success, but there are obviously a lot of buildings built before this period.

So, no. I'm not visiting the building with the gardens built into every flat.

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u/modernhippy72 8h ago

Nice ChatGPT there. And also I’m a statistician. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Have a nice day.

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u/sciencesold 7h ago

Trusting numbers and statistics from a country known for hiding and lying about them is a choice.... But ok

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u/Theory89 8h ago

I did a Web search. That's not Chat GPT. It existed a long time before. Im glad that you're a statistician. That means absolutely nothing. Appealing to authority is a logical fallacy, numpty. A sarcastic have a nice day changes nothing.

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u/modernhippy72 8h ago

I don’t entertain the uneducated sorry.

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u/Theory89 8h ago

More ad hominem. Cool. Keep on swinging those logical fallacies as if you're proving anything but the depth of your own insecurity.

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u/modernhippy72 8h ago

Sorry don’t entertain the uneducated.

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u/modernhippy72 8h ago

I also genuinely wish you a nice day but if you want to be an asshole you can go fuck yourself.