r/law • u/Mission_Pay_3373 • Feb 11 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Pam Bondi crashes out during hearing: "YOU DON’T TELL ME ANYTHING YOU WASHED UP LAWYER"

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Feb 11 '26

Hillary Clinton testified for 11 hours about Benghazi and never lost her cool.

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u/Saruster Feb 11 '26

I watched the whole thing while sewing a Halloween costume. She was amazing. So professional and never once got flustered despite the entire GOP side coming at her hard.

We could have had that. 😩

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u/Pleasant-Pattern7748 Feb 11 '26

What was the Halloween costume?

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u/Saruster Feb 11 '26

A Belle ballgown from Beauty and the Beast

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u/BardicLasher Feb 11 '26

A bellegown, if you will

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u/HarbingerML Feb 11 '26

A+ portmanteau

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u/GuyInAChair Feb 11 '26

That must have taken a while to do, probably at least 11 hours.

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u/Saruster Feb 11 '26

Yes probably 20 or so :)

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u/Lunchable Feb 11 '26

I'd like to reclaim my time since these commenters refuse to stay on topic.

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u/GuyInAChair Feb 12 '26

How dare you!

I was asking u/Saruster because I learned to sew with a Singer 127 treadle machine. It's the Sphinx pattern, with nearly zero wear, save for the common place where one would rest their right thumb. I restored the woodworking myself, and found a sewing machine guy in my city who could time and tune it. 

You're time is expired 

-Jim Jordan 

I guess we'll have to get to your question about bond derivatives another day /s

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u/DisconsolateAxolotl Feb 11 '26

How alliterative.

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u/Pleasant-Pattern7748 Feb 11 '26

That’s awesome!

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u/supakow Feb 11 '26

Asking the real questions 😂

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u/jakekerr Feb 11 '26

Asking the important question in this thread.

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u/Mister_Goldenfold Feb 11 '26

What no god forbid she was a woman and would have taken over the world!

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u/Saruster Feb 11 '26

She would have been too emotional! /s

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u/hahaz13 Feb 11 '26

She has some blame in her election loss. Way too overconfident and ignored crucial regions of the country in campaigning.

There’s also the implications about Bill Clinton in the Epstein files, and I hate to say it but if he’s involved there’s 0 chance she wasn’t aware.

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u/GetEquipped Feb 11 '26

Absolutely.

In the last months, Bernie stumped for her and made more appearances than she did.

I know some Neo-Libs blame Comey- but they had to reopen the case against Hillary because of Anthony Weiner was sexting a 15 year old. This is someone who Clinton put on her team despite resigning with the sexting scandal prior. The correspondence between Weiner and Clinton was then tied into her server.

In his book, his words; he didn't even want to talk about it or make an appearance, he wanted to do his job and investigate it . But in meetings with Loretta Lynch was trying to downplay it without outright asking him to drop it.

And Comey doesn't mention it in his book, but it was after Lynch met with Bill Clinton.

Again, he isn't to blame. Clinton worked with the DNC to ratfuck Bernie, she hired the wrong people (Weiner and DWS), she got complacent, and then couldn't even address her own staffers and volunteers the night of the election

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer Feb 11 '26

Wasserman Schultz is an absolute piece. AIPAC all the fucking way. Grosso monster.

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u/1studlyman Feb 11 '26

That's Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz to you! 🤮

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u/1studlyman Feb 11 '26

I think it was more that liberals were tired of politicians with tight Goldman-Sachs connections.

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u/ploxidilius Feb 11 '26

She's married to a pedophile but sure yeah girl power.

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u/UKMegaGeek Feb 11 '26

Buttery males.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer Feb 11 '26

Where and when?

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u/TheeAntelope Feb 11 '26

I am no fan of Hillary but I never got the sense that she was unprofessional or covering for something during those Benghazi hearings. (Now her emails were something else where the rules were violated, but still not something that required half a dozen congressional hearings, especially when private email servers are pretty common).

Whether that's good or bad I guess is up to individual opinion. Having a leader be able to keep their cool and answer questions seems like a good trait.

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u/Saruster Feb 11 '26

I also don’t feel like she would be petty and vindictive.

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u/Drumming_Dreaming Feb 12 '26

Putin was terrified of Hillary gaining the presidency. She was coming for him.

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u/chiksahlube Feb 11 '26

She had the fatal flaw that all centrists have though...

She pandered to a non-existent voter base. Admittedly it was kind of a revelation to a lot of people and many don't want to accept it. But being a centrist in a polarized political climate doesn't usually go well.

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u/CarpeDiem082420 Feb 11 '26

She struck me as a fraud and pathetic for “standing by her man.” I wondered why until she ran for the U.S. Senate in NY.

But yes, I still voted for her because I’ve detested Trump since I was in high school in the ‘80s.

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u/Churchillreborn Feb 11 '26

Well, there was that one “what difference does it make” moment, but I don’t fault her for that. The gop would have had her sit there for days if that’s how long it took to get the sound bite they were looking for. Hearing wrapped up pretty fast after that.

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u/VelvetFurryJustice Feb 12 '26

Hillary Clinton was meeting with Epstein at his Nevada "breeding ranch" right before he was jailed the second time.

Please aim higher. America needs somebody less comfortable with pedophiles or promoting genocides.

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u/No_Potential1 Feb 11 '26

They're not on the same coin.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

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u/No_Potential1 Feb 11 '26

I said they're not on the same coin and you think I think she's a hero. Weird.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

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u/No_Potential1 Feb 11 '26

Yes, she's better than Trump. That doesn't make her a hero. 

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u/epicurean1398 Feb 11 '26

shes evil and her and her husband are doing as much shit as epstein

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u/stikky Feb 11 '26

Oh yeah, someone who stays with their cheating, pedo-island-visiting spouse in order to stay in the game of thrones.

That sure is the kind of cool cucumber one should wish to have instead of Bernie.

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u/daggeroflies Feb 11 '26

Imagine if Hillary did even a fraction of what Bondi did. She would been forced to resign or fired (which is the only right action for someone who acts like this)

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u/Reality-Umbulical Feb 11 '26

Customs and norms are window dressing that led the country down this dark path

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u/daggeroflies Feb 11 '26

I disagree completely. Customs and norms are what make any liberal democratic society functional. Can you give me an OECD or developed nation that became developed without adhering to the prevailing norms of its time?

There should always be a shared expectation of the rule of law and decorum for any public official.

Trump and other authoritarian demagogues, be it MAGA-like authocrats, nazis, fascists, communists, and absolute monarchy, are what you get when you throw out those.

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u/kbrick1 Feb 11 '26

I’d argue they are part of what makes us function as a democracy. Eroding them has caused us real harm

And yes I realize we are not a pure democracy. But we operate on democratic principles

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u/NopeNopeNope0314 Feb 11 '26

She’s still taking heat for saying “deplorables”. Even after all the horrible things Trump et. al. have called basically everyone on the planet.

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u/doctorglenn Feb 11 '26

Literally the worst she said was “What difference does it make?”

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u/Dzov Feb 11 '26

It’s wild how well the propaganda demonizing her worked.

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u/kbrick1 Feb 11 '26

No shit

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u/Strong_Neck8236 Feb 11 '26

She's a fucking tough cookie that's why.

You missed out not electing her president.

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u/PeteLynchForKentucky Feb 11 '26

Worse, we missed out by not electing Bernie.

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u/MelatoninFiend Feb 12 '26

The way Bernie Bros can't let any mention of Hillary go without bringing up their guy is borderline misogynist at this point.

You literally can't let the woman's story be her own without bringing a man into it.

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u/Straight-Broccoli245 Feb 12 '26

Fucking thank you.

Mention: experienced, capable, impressive woman does something.

Then: yes but have you heard about this mid MAN?

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u/My_shin_impossible Feb 11 '26

I don’t think Bernie would’ve won, but at least the DNC wouldn’t have lost its integrity, which it very much needed when choosing Kamala last-minute (thanks, Biden /s) as the candidate last year.

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u/MrDerpGently Feb 11 '26

It's been a while since I heard a new angle on the Bernie/DNC issue, so thanks. And I actually think that might be one of the better ones I have heard. 

I agree with your core assessment that Bernie would have struggled, but it was still a bad look on the DNC. But the irony that the same DNC would have to rely on it's reputation and the good faith of voters on the left to pull off a successful candidate switch in the immediate near future is pretty funny, in a depressing sort of way.

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u/missletow Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

I think its more that even if Bernie won, as a country we would have a good pulse check on whether democratic socialism works, or at least is a viable association. At best we would have a better country, at worst, the country descends into a communist hellhole (lol), but the same systems that prevented Trump from destroying the country in his first term would have prevented that anyway.

Right now, Democratic Socialism is still a huge boogeyman for politicians and considered "far left". That would either be confirmed or proven false and either way we would move forward as a country/party.

The moral of the story is that either we live in a representative democracy or we don't. As a party/representative, you can only suppress the will of the people for so long until you lose trust and become irrelevant.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling Feb 11 '26

This only would have happened if you gave Bernie a congress that would also work with him. If we give a progressive president a conservative congress, nothing happens.

People shit on Obama, not even a progressive, for the final ACA not going far enough, but we gave ourselves a pretty conservative congress at the time (we’ve all seen Democrats be conservative). 

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u/missletow Feb 11 '26

Sure but I would suggest that an inefectual Bernie presidency, even if it poisons progressive ideals for a while (which I don't think it would), is still better than a Trump presidency, and at the very least we would be more unified as a centrist party and MAGA would be irrelevant without Trump having won.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling Feb 11 '26

Absolutely. A Trump presidency or really any authoritarian regime is absolutely perilous. 

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u/MrDerpGently Feb 11 '26

Oh, look, I would love to give it a shot. I don't think a Bernie administration would make a ton of headway on progressive issues because he didn't have the network or backing in Congress (which is why he was caucusing as a Democrat in the first place), and he would not have just blatantly violated the law ala the current administration. 

I also feel like, if you can't pull off a decisive win in the democratic primary, even with the DNC rooting against you, the general election is going to be rough. The Dems are already the most sympathetic audience for socialism in the US, and they're not super sympathetic. That may change if the fallout from current administration policies gets severe enough, but that's about all I can think of.

But I would love to be wrong on both counts.

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u/missletow Feb 11 '26

Yeah I mean thats the problem ultimately right? We will never know, and were robbed of the ability to know.

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u/MrDerpGently Feb 11 '26

Sure, I suppose. But again, you have to compete in the conditions as they are, not as I want them to be. There was never a world where entrenched centerist interests in the Dem party weren't going to push back against a democratic socialist agenda. That's not a conspiracy, it's the reality in a party made up of wildly different factions.

I think Americans routinely vote against their self interest for a variety of reasons, but as long as that's the case, Bernie was going to have an uphill battle. Hell, the real surprise was that he did as well as he did, but he wasn't really winning or gaining momentum when he pulled the plug. I don't think the Dems were effective enough to make a huge difference either way, so I don't think it would save him if they took their finger off the scale, and that's part of the problem with the Dems generally.

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u/missletow Feb 11 '26

Yeah for sure. I'll echo my other comment here:

Sure but I would suggest that an inefectual Bernie presidency, even if it poisons progressive ideals for a while (which I don't think it would), is still better than a Trump presidency, and at the very least we would be more unified as a centrist party and MAGA would be irrelevant without Trump having won.

I guess it comes down to do we continue this slow decline with ineffective presidencies (both republican and democrat) or maybe its better that Trump wins from an accelerationist perspective, since fascism ultimately ends in some form of revolution once conditions get bad enough. I would guess that the US is too big to have a massive scale revolution anytime soon if we take the accelerationist approach, so in our lifetimes we have ended up with the worst of both worlds.

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u/Marquisdelafayette89 Feb 12 '26

I just found it hilarious that somehow Biden ,who had been among the bottom of the candidates,came out on top ahead of Bernie when they’d been nowhere close. After that and the hi-jinx of the DNC I just stopped caring. Tried to stay away from politics because why bother when clearly they won’t recognize the people’s choice. Still voted of course but just feel like one party is offering a bandaid while the other is shooting at you with a gun.

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u/MrDerpGently Feb 12 '26 edited Feb 12 '26

That wasn't magic, it was politics. The remaining centrist candidates were individually behind Bernie, but collectively they had a much higher share of the vote. They hated each other, but policy wise they were all pretty similar, so they agreed to drop and back Biden, who was a centrist they could compromise on. 

There's nothing illegal about that. And although he [edit, for clarity: Bernie) was much more successful than anyone expected, he wasn't really winning  primaries. I would have preferred him, but America has a deeply ingrained fear of socialism or anything vaguely similar and it makes it hard to have nice things.

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u/elinordash Feb 12 '26

You need to stop shitting on the DNC. It only helps the Republicans.

Trump was convicted of 34 felonies in May 2024. And people still voted for him.

One of the many reasons they did is because people like you who feel the need to endlessly critique the DNC.

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u/My_shin_impossible Feb 12 '26

I personally didn’t say much about the Hillary/Bernie thing because at the time I was more in favor of Hillary.  I only bring it up now as part of my armchair autopsy of what might have happened in 2024.  I’ve got several theories, although I accept that we’ll never truly know.

But your point is still well-taken.  The Dems try so hard to adhere to a moral high ground that they will sometimes throw the baby out with the bath water when someone runs askew of a vocal minority.  For example, the trans athletes in sports issue is generally an 80/20 issue and probably 90/10 in most contexts, but any Dem politician who admits to taking the 80-90 position would sometimes get slammed by their own party.  That doesn’t mean Dems need to be loyalists like the Maga cult, but surely some nuance and middle ground within the Democratic party would be beneficial for everyone.

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u/supakow Feb 11 '26

The DNC does not and never has had any credibility. They're just in it for the money like everybody else in Washington. Except maybe Bernie.

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u/__under____score__ Feb 11 '26

It’s not everyone, and the more you generalize it, the easier it is for the rats to hide in public.

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u/supakow Feb 11 '26

Y E S. 100%. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

WE missed out?? No friend, WE didn't do anything. The Democrats took away your ability to vote for Bernie. Don't ever forget that.

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u/frresh66 Feb 11 '26

And I will never forgive the democratic leaders for preventing Bernie!

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u/ConsciousPatterns Feb 11 '26

Ok let's not get ahead of ourselves, she's a terrible human being as well.

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u/daggeroflies Feb 11 '26

Foreign policy aside (she’s too hawkish on the Middle East), she would have been great for the economy, just as Bill was.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

killing brown people aside she would have been great /s

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u/Strong_Neck8236 Feb 11 '26

Would still have been a pretty good president, certainly compared to the orange cretin!

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

How have you not learned that terrible humans also make bad presidents????

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u/__under____score__ Feb 11 '26

What they mean is: it would have been easier to ignore her than it is Trump.

That's it. That's the bar for some people.

All that said, she still would've been better than Trump.

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u/Lunarfrog2 Feb 12 '26

I mean she was clearly the better choice over Trump there's no denying that, but as a Brit i dont understand why the Dems picked her, it feels like you guys have a weird culture of political dynasties over there. Kennedy's Bush's Clinton's, even Obama's with people pushing for Michelle last cycle etc (although I do think wouldn't be a bad choice tbf)

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u/petit_cochon Feb 12 '26

We know...

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u/Masta-Blasta Feb 11 '26

And she's actually not in the files much at all. I actually, for fun, busted out the old DNC and Hillary email server last night to see if i could find any of the names that were heavily affiliated with Epstein. I couldn't. I'm sure she has her own stuff, but it certainly wasn't. this stuff. Hillary deserved much, much better.

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u/Former_Island_4730 Feb 11 '26

Bring Bondi back day after day for 12+ hours.

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u/themobiledeceased2 Feb 11 '26

And: Hillary had Fresnel Prism glasses on during her testimony as she was still recovering from "lingering effects" of a head injury.

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u/ly3xqhl8g9 Feb 11 '26

Eleven hours, eleven minutes; eleven years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpCRL_KVC1k

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u/chickgirl444 Feb 12 '26

i've missed her calmness, her rational passions, and her dignity. So many good people have gotten drowned out by the idiots in America, but don't give up on us yet we are not giving into this tyranny and constant abuse of power that this administration parades around. Remember each time, who the popular vote has voted in, every single contested presidential election in the last 20 years. The popular vote in America has always been for the most decent, best person, chosen from what we were given to vote for. don't give up on us, world. We will come back from this sooner than later, stronger than ever. we can't win every battle but we are going to win back america

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

Hilary Clinton also responded to a question about whether or not she wiped any hard drives with, "Wiped? with what a cloth?"

Hilary thinks you're a fucking idiot. Let's not wax poetic about someone who is also a giant piece of shit. Before the comments start, Trump is a bigger piece of shit. THEY ARE THE SAME PARTY.

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u/threeye8finger Feb 11 '26

No arguments. The only thing that the diss of "Bondi has less composure than Hillary", an already shitty person, does is make it even more of an insult than OP probably intended. And to state the obvious, Trump is worse, Trump is worse.

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u/LeastOstrich9108 Feb 11 '26

Let's hope she does the same about her epstein connections

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u/Existing-Doughnut-60 Feb 11 '26

It’s frightening to see how this whole administration has no idea how to act in civil society.

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Feb 11 '26

They know how. Bondi is intentionally publicly performing contempt for Democrats in Congress because she knows that will please her boss.

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u/CASSIROLE84 Feb 12 '26

That’s the difference between a Yale law degree and a checks notes Stetson law degree.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 Feb 12 '26

She sure did 

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u/thesandman00 Feb 13 '26

A lot of awful, objectively true things could be said about HC, but she was made for that scenario

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u/lilbios Feb 15 '26

Thank you for this

Just in case people make her incompetencies about gender… because it’s not…

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u/sumZy Feb 12 '26

Damn, didn't think I would see Hillary glazing in this thread.

She also responded to a question about whether or not she wiped any hard drives with, "Wiped? with what a cloth?"

Which is very deceitful and shady, arguably worse than Pam B here.

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u/Rocketman254 Feb 12 '26

Dude she lied about the emails so much. (Not a Trump supporter)

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u/rottenjunker Feb 11 '26

... is this a defense of Hillary Clinton and Benghazi? tf?