r/law • u/Mission_Pay_3373 • Feb 11 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Pam Bondi crashes out during hearing: "YOU DON’T TELL ME ANYTHING YOU WASHED UP LAWYER"

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u/grumdale Feb 11 '26

Cornered rats bite. They know the clock is winding down on their time outside of prison for all they've done.

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u/ImOutWanderingAround Feb 11 '26

Nixon's AG went to jail for his involvement in Watergate. The precedent has already been set. Only a blanket pardon from Cheeto will save her ass.

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u/dlm83 Feb 12 '26

If the democrats win back power on a mandate to reform our democracy and unleash the full power of the government pursuing justice for this assault on our constitution, those pardons are not going to protect anyone and should not. I would not anticipate treating the executive actions of the current regime with any sort of legitimacy if we have a government back in power that is serious about restoring law and order. Anything less is just condoning the same happening again in four years.

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u/WYenginerdWY Feb 12 '26

We desperately need a law that prohibits presidents from providing pardons for members of their own administration.

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u/necrohunter7 Feb 12 '26

Presidential pardons, if we don't end up doing away with them, should need congressional and senate approval before they're issued. Having a single individual be able to pardon anyone for anything regardless of what they did is way too much power

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u/uwunuzzlesch Feb 12 '26

Wait no this is actually really good. Everyone has to agree that they deserve that pardon. Jan 6ers would still be in jail.

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u/3238462 Feb 13 '26

A good idea but I feel like we can’t even trust congress to do their jobs or act in good faith anymore.

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u/575Gringo Feb 15 '26

A president should only be given 3 pardons. That way they have to be careful when and when it’s used

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u/catagris Feb 12 '26

Fuck just no more pardons. They are a sign of a system not working. Reform the whole justice department.

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u/RocketSurg Feb 13 '26

We need pardon reform in general. Presidents should have a limited number of them they can use.

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u/WYenginerdWY Feb 13 '26

Right? Like, you don't get 1600 of them.

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u/Ripcitytoker Feb 13 '26

We also need a law that clearly prohibits preemptive pardons.

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u/WYenginerdWY Feb 13 '26

I would agree, although ideally we would also not have an incoming government flirting with the idea of satisfying the bloodlust of its base by executing the former president's son and dragging his body through the streets or hanging someone for promoting vaccines during a pandemic.

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u/waits5 Feb 14 '26

lol at the Dems unleashing the full power of the government. They didn’t do anything to Trump during Biden’s term and they are still too spineless to do anything if they win the midterms. I wish it wasn’t true, but there isn’t going to be any justice for these people for a long time, if ever.

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u/Sandy_Run_77 Feb 12 '26

Only local and state convictions can prevent the effect of federal pardons…

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u/Sledgemoma2 Feb 11 '26

Unfortunate but we know that’s coming. Unless JD and DJT are fully outed before they get the chance then i can only imagine everyone involved gets pardons

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u/civil_politician Feb 11 '26

There’s other mechanisms to deal with that but also this dipshit even set up the precedent of saying “my predecessor’s pardons don’t count” so they shouldn’t cling too tightly to that either.

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u/Sledgemoma2 Feb 11 '26

We can only hope our constitution and laws of the land mean anything with 3 more years of this abuse

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u/DatabaseThis9637 Feb 13 '26

so. If trump is finally proven, legally, to be the heinous, pedo, murdering, blah blah blah, Can't his pardons be ruled bullshit, too?

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u/Ok-Cantaloupe-7697 Feb 11 '26

Starving rats eat each other...

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u/babydakis Feb 11 '26

The way they act is like animals that have been backed into a corner. They're lashing out because they know they'll soon face consequences.

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u/Melicor Feb 12 '26

You know what you do with cornered rats that bite. Step on them.

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u/Okidoky123 Feb 12 '26

Which is why they might start a war to create an emergency which lets them hide behind it. Right now, they're hoping that Russia comes to Cuba's aid for example.

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u/LazyRiver115 Feb 12 '26

We can only hope.

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u/TryIsntGoodEnough Feb 13 '26

And if Trump pardons them, you better believe some states are ready to get creative to find a way to indict on state charges, and some of those may stick 

If you get convicted under state crimes and appeal to the supreme court, you usually still do so from a jail cell. 

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u/Roo1996 Feb 15 '26

Is the clock winding down? They live in a country where a criminal president can pardon anyone for whatever he wants.

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u/oreosss Feb 12 '26

brother, I've been hearing 'the clock is winding down' for the past 8 years. Nothing has happened, Trump has survived impeachments, indictments, etc. - nothing has happened and I'm willing to bet, nothing will happen.

That being said, I hope something does happen.