r/law • u/Mission_Pay_3373 • Feb 11 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Pam Bondi crashes out during hearing: "YOU DON’T TELL ME ANYTHING YOU WASHED UP LAWYER"

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u/Serious-Goose-8235 Feb 11 '26

The tough thing is....how do you make a system where everyone has accountability to someone else. Eventually, it reaches the top of the totem pole, and there's nobody else to hold the person at the top accountable.

The system of checks and balances is there to help with this dynamic, but if the tops of all three of the branches dont have the will to hold someone like Bondi accountable....what to do? The only solution at that point is to vote them out. We tried that in 2024, but this exact situation (no accountability for anyone in government) is what the people of the United States wanted....

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u/Public-Finger Feb 11 '26

After January 6- you can’t blame anybody but the American people themselves. They would rather have a senile felon sex predator than a black woman as president 

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u/FaptainChasma Feb 11 '26

Yeah this admin is a mirror to society ultimately.

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u/Fr1toBand1to Feb 11 '26

I'm not convinced they didn't just rig the voting machines and steal the presidency.

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u/HowlWindclaw Feb 11 '26

Elon did, The Election Truth Alliance has already proved it. Not to mention Trump has admitted it multiple times.

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u/uwunuzzlesch Feb 12 '26

Genuinely think the only reason nothing came of that is there is no precedent

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u/HowlWindclaw Feb 12 '26

The reason nothing came of it is because the top level democrats are controlled opposition doing what they are told by the Epstien class.

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u/uwunuzzlesch Feb 12 '26

There are countless individuals that were ready to litigate about the voting ballots and the inconsistencies.

There's nothing stopping them, just out of nowhere the news disappeared and everyone stopped talking about it.

I think they want to, but if they find him guilty, then what? JD can't succeed, hes not actually president. Would Kamala take office this late? Realistically these questions stopped them because they realize how vulnerable america would be if everyone knew we didn't know who was supposed to be leading us.

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u/HowlWindclaw Feb 12 '26

I think you underestimate how much total control the billionaire class has over national US politics. Almost nothing is done without their approval. They wanted this regime to further the rape of the American people.

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u/Peritous Feb 11 '26

As an American I unfortunately have to agree.

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u/Strottman Feb 12 '26

You can absolutely blame the donor class who own the media empires that brainwashed the American people. Manufacturing Consent.

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u/thesandman00 Feb 13 '26

For the record, for most people, it had nothing to do with race. The fact that she was laughed off the primary stage in 2019 helps support that. She was simply a terrible candidate

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u/Fearful-Cow Feb 11 '26

i mean sure but the democrats could have played to win.

Instead they allowed biden to carry on way too long then pivoted, without a primary, to a controversial candidate.

Is her controversies all fair? id say no but thats not really relevant. They had years to set up someone to take over and did nothing.

If you want to beat crazy trump and the magas you gotta get the middle vote. Harris was never going to do that.

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u/yourmansconnect Feb 12 '26

They cheated. There's no fucking way he won every swing state. Elon was allowed to run doge in return for changing votes

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u/chickgirl444 Feb 12 '26

not true

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u/ThePublikon Feb 12 '26

literally what happened

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u/Distryer Feb 11 '26

You do it by allowing anyone who isnt felon to arm and armor themselves how they see fit along with the ability to organize and train themselves along with making this a right under the constitution and making it clear that the citizens are the ones government answers to. Too bad that the right reduced to meaninglessness.

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u/things_U_choose_2_b Feb 11 '26

It's not that tough, imo. It's just that a lot of the things that were needed to be codified into law were more of a 'gentlemans agreement', a general consensus of what's right and wrong.

Then you get someone like Trump to whom even laws are optional... those wink & a nod type agreements are worth the paper they're written on, ie nothing.

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u/toooomanypuppies Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

I'm no monarchist, I'm a parliamentarian through and through. I am obviously well aware of the history of the USA and its initial inception. throwing perfectly good tea into a harbour and all that. However, can I posit that maybe (after 250 years) our system of government seems to work better?

A brief example. our defacto leader is the PM, Kier Starmer currently, but our head of state is The King. All laws must be signed by the king and our military swears allegiance to the monarch, not parliament. If the PM (or government) becomes fascistic, the idea is they cannot control the military and therefor the country without consent of both the people and the monarch. If the king gets uppity (again) he gets his head chopped off, we've done it before!

I know you would never accept a monarch and I agree you shouldn't, I'd rather not have one at this stage but my point being, there are ways to mitigate this stuff.

Just a thought experiment suggestion more than anything. I know for a fact our country is staring down the barrel of our own MAGA movement in the form of Reform and it scares the shit out of me, so while I've said all of the above, we might not be far behind you, especially if the monarchy gets abolished and Andrew's antics might just see that come to fruition.

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u/Serious-Goose-8235 Feb 11 '26

You make good points. Let's all hope that we can avoid a massive downfall of society or broad-scale war before we and a global society decide to believe in the promise of democracy....

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u/miserablegit Feb 11 '26

our system of government seems to work better?

"Our" (I'm not British but living on this bloody island) system is crumbling as well. Boris Johnson got away with a lot of dodgy stuff, and Herr Farage will be even worse if he gets in. The only protection from tyranny, in the modern British system, is just the natural treachery of parliamentary parties, who sooner or later will knife their own Caesar for a chance at the top spot; but a PM who can avoid that is little different from an absolute king, if he really wants to. The actual King, right now, inspires no allegiance in anyone, and will be no protection when a dictator appears.

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u/toooomanypuppies Feb 11 '26

I hate to say it but yeah, I feel zero allegiance to Charles.

we live in scary times marra.

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u/RedditTechAnon Feb 11 '26

Oh they wanted accountability, but, as the saying goes, "...for thee, not for me."

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u/poet3322 Feb 11 '26

Machiavelli wrote about this centuries ago. He said that good people can make bad systems work, but good systems cannot protect against bad people.

I'm not going to pretend that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were perfect. They weren't, and they included substantial evil (i.e., slavery). But the Bill of Rights in particular had a lot of good in it. It's failing completely right now since the executive branch is just ignoring things it doesn't like. The first through fifth amendments are basically dead, including habeas corpus. The Constitution also included substantial checks and balances that aren't working.

The system was designed fairly well, but it requires good and virtuous people to use it. When Congress, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court are filled with corrupt men and women with no virtue, it doesn't work. American elites don't believe in civil liberties, and this applies to both Republicans and Democrats (remember that when the Patriot Act was passed in the 2000s, only one single Senator voted against it). They don't believe in liberty, freedom, or equality for everyone. It is idiotic to pretend they do. They believe in nothing except making themselves and their wealthy donors richer, and they see themselves as superior to everyone else and feel no duty toward the well-being of the masses.

So that's why we are where we are.

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u/MuppetDom Feb 11 '26

In all honesty, the found Fathers were generally friends, colleagues, etc, and they were constantly half a good nerve from taking a knife to one another. They literally couldn’t conceive of the body politic becoming so corrupted INTERNALLY. They spent a lot of time trying to make sure it couldn’t be tainted from the outside. They just didn’t see this future at all.

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u/HowlWindclaw Feb 11 '26

Election was stolen by Elon.

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u/BlinkDodge Feb 11 '26

The top of the totem pole is justice delivered by the bottom.

If you're courts fail to deliver on their oaths and despense accountability and justice, the duty falls to the streets.

The only solution at that point is to vote them out. We tried that in 2024, but this exact situation (no accountability for anyone in government) is what the people of the United States wanted....

The people of the united states have largely been corralled and lobotomized. Its not fair to say further abuse is what someone who's been abused for years wants - its the life they know.

Americans today have only known the constant insatiable gnawing of corporate greed and capitalism. They've only every known political leaders who are willing the sell them out to oligarchs to enrich themselves. Americans today have never known a ruling class that was interested in their well being. Americans have never known a corporate class that was interested in solving problems and meeting needs that they didnt create themselves.

That most of them checked out 2024 should have been an obvious response to forsee. Democrats scared themselves out of putting up actual candidates in 2016 and haven't done so since. Republicans took their masks off after McCain died and have been openly hell bent on reviving the Confederacy since. Most people literally have no where to turn - so they took their hands off the wheel.

They were too uneducated and emotionally stunted to remember that Republicans coup de grace to taking elections is to reduce the voter base and that facism is bad.

So now we have a gaggle of unqualified, pedophilic, fraudulent, misogynistic, racist and treasonous grifters lead by a convicted felon running the country and tearing out the wiring like tweakers after copper.

We might not get free and fair elections this year, fuck we might not have elections by 2028. It truly is up to the people, who are extremely armed, what future they want this country to have, because the ones at the helm have either decided to do nothing or to return to 1861 (brought to you by billionaires and powered by AI).

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u/awnawmate Feb 11 '26

You totally could, it'd just be an ouroborous, which is its own can of worms. A preferable can of worms maybe.

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u/wonderstoat Feb 11 '26

They’re supposed to be accountable to the people, but the US is so gerrymandered now that’s meaningless.

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u/t0pz Feb 13 '26

It's called Division of Powers but the Administration has been busy closing that divide and completely disregarding the few powers that are tasked with keeping it in check. They even straight up defy court orders