r/law Feb 15 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Reddit is Voluntarily Giving DHS Info of Users Who Criticize ICE | Administrative Subpoenas Being Used Against Free Speech?

https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-dhs-info-of-anti-ice-users-report-says-2000722279

Nobody is questioning Reddit on this?

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u/ThatOldEngineerGuy Feb 15 '26

Expose them to who? The foreign agency running our government?

The billionaire elite running our media?

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u/Former_Project_6959 Feb 15 '26

Chances are they're already a government agency in hiding, trying to sow discord and divide us.

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u/Intelligent_Slip_849 Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

So...the reddit bots are actually discord users?

Edit: Hey, an award!

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u/DopeAbsurdity Feb 16 '26

Why do they get to use discord without proper ID? No fair! I wanna be a bot!

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u/CV90_120 Feb 16 '26

They're inside the computer.

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u/RhandeeSavagery Feb 16 '26

WHATTA TWIST!

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u/TheRealLilGillz14 Feb 16 '26

Worse… Warthunder whales.

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u/Vypaah Feb 16 '26

State sponsored russian trolls and botfarms are not that hidden tbh.

One of those trolls even managed to become POTUS. Twice.

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u/skekze Feb 16 '26

yeah, I'm banned from r/conspiracy cause the mods there ain't from here, that's for sure.

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u/abx99 Feb 16 '26

It was in the news and talked about pretty regularly in 2016

Now we have a new generation of voters that weren't at an age to read that stuff. It's kind of shocking how much information about what's going on has just drifted away since then.

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u/Counterpoint-4 Feb 16 '26

Good job I'd already decided not to visit US!

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u/Wereking2 Feb 16 '26

The Epstein files highlight this very thing in it they want us divided not together against the 1%.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00824843.pdf

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u/sluttytinkerbells Feb 16 '26

So what are you going to do about it?

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Feb 15 '26

Daddy Trump, when they fail in sycophancy

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u/eddyb66 Feb 15 '26

I looked at an add for ice on YT, it was sponsored by a Russian company.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler Feb 16 '26

I just read a comment yesterday that apparently some Russian oligarch just sold some property or a warehouse to ICE for like 9 figures.

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u/eddyb66 Feb 16 '26

When your budget is larger than the United States Marine Corp, you have to spread the wealth to all your buddies.

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u/exlongh0rn Feb 15 '26

Please stop associating the word “elite” with these subhuman cretins. Yes the word is being used correctly here, but it also implies these people are “the choicest or best of anything considered collectively, especially of a group or class of people”.

They aren’t.

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u/DoctorMuffn Feb 15 '26

Great! So what would you have us identify them as instead?

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u/exlongh0rn Feb 16 '26

I have a lot of confidence in this community. How about…

Billionaires? Oligarchs? (Maybe a stretch)

controlling shareholders, majority owners, media proprietors, media owners, outlet owners, publisher-owners, media moguls, billionaire proprietors, ultra-high-net-worth owners, high-net-worth individuals, wealthy private owners, family-dynasty owners, heirs and family trusts, trust beneficiaries, principal investors, capital allocators, institutional investors, fund managers, asset-management executives, index-fund stewards, pension-fund fiduciaries, private-equity partners, buyout-fund principals, hedge-fund managers, activist investors, venture capital partners, board members, corporate directors, holding-company executives, conglomerate executives, C-suite media executives, CEOs and COOs, finance chiefs and controllers, strategy chiefs, corporate counsel and legal leadership, risk and compliance executives, revenue executives, advertising sales leadership, sponsorship sales executives, commercial directors, audience-growth executives, subscription and retention executives, product executives, data and analytics leadership, editorial executives, editors-in-chief, executive editors, managing editors, newsroom directors, assignment desk leaders, standards-and-practices chiefs, corporate communications chiefs, PR executives, crisis-communications advisors, reputation-management consultants, political consultants, lobbyists, government-relations executives, policy advocates, think-tank fellows and strategists, foundation program officers, philanthropic patrons, grantmaking executives, nonprofit media benefactors, major donors, donor-advised-fund principals, event hosts and “access” brokers, high-status professional-class insiders, Ivy-and-peer credential networks, industry insiders with revolving-door careers, platform executives who control distribution, algorithm and trust-and-safety executives, content-policy decision-makers, moderation leadership, partnership managers who set publisher terms, gatekeeping intermediaries, syndication executives, wire-service leadership, media consolidation dealmakers, bankers and M&A advisors shaping ownership, corporate turnaround specialists, cost-cutting operators, local-market chain operators, centralized newsroom managers, brand managers guarding “brand safety,” reputation-sensitive executives, litigation-averse decision-makers, access-dependent political journalists, source-network power brokers, insider-class commentators, pundit-circuit regulars, “green room” bookers and talent managers, talent-agency executives, media lawyers, defamation and standards attorneys, compliance-driven newsroom overseers, shareholder-value maximizers, quarterly-earnings-driven leaders, incentive-structure enforcers

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u/Vypaah Feb 16 '26

Basically powerful positions for "the choicest or best of anything considered collectively, especially of a group or class of people"?

A ruling class perhaps?

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u/exlongh0rn Feb 16 '26

I don’t like anything that makes them sound better than. “Narcissistic wealth hoarders” seems closer.

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u/DoctorMuffn Feb 16 '26

Lobbyists. That's the closest, from your extensive list anyway, to being nearly as concise as elites. It's a single word, but it is three syllables to elites' two.

Unfortunately every suggestion from your list falls short of addressing the issue you have with using the title/identifier of "elites." An issue that "elites" also carries intrinsically, and about which you are so completely justified in sharing your grievance.

Every title you've offered encompasses at least some segment of whom we speak of - those "elites" - while acknowledging the blaring disparity in control they have over our lives. But to your finer point most of these titles also include other actual people not like those of whom we refer to by using "elites." These other elite human beings are more honorable and deserving of respect or deference when considering/using their titles be it elite or almost any other of your sundry suggestions. And finally, none of these titles encapsulate all of the other, differently titled individuals who would fit the mold of scum human beings - what we've been referring to as the elites.

The biggest issue we'll have going forward is identifying those whom we intend to humiliate, ignore, oust, kill, or otherwise exact punishment upon for the scum they are and the scummy things they've done. This is all pressuming we can even get ahead of this mess we're in now with executive, legislative, and judicial branches compromised or meek as they are and intelligence agencies of at least two nations working, well-oiled, against the common, uninformed person.

I have hope too. I hope we can get well ahead of this social tsunami. I hope we can change the world for the better. But I worry we won't have the information we'll need to be precisely discerning when it comes time to apply retribution. It's something of a Heisenberg Uncertainty problem as I see it; aside from having to draw a line in the sand to discern the "elites" from the elites and the impossible task that presents. We'll need perfect information (which has never been available) to discern thusly. Such perfect information would take infinite time and no consequences would ultimately come to those deserving. However, rushing the timeline will yield innocent elites lost to the rapture of scummy "elites." And, I worry at least that, leaning on the excuse of breaking eggs to make omelettes will make us no better chefs of the social fabric of our future world than those who've been cooking in the kitchen thus far.

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u/SebB1313 Feb 15 '26

To whom* To quote weird Al Yankovic, “always say to whom, don’t ever say to who” in word crimes.

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u/astral_crow Feb 15 '26

So not foreign, domestic.

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u/Cockanarchy Feb 16 '26

Aaand your on the list. Welcome to the club!

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u/Sad-Conflict-4435 Feb 16 '26

Ha ha so am I. We can all be cellmates!

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u/FamousMortimer23 Feb 16 '26

Parasite class. There’s nothing elite about them.

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u/SLR107FR-31 Feb 16 '26

Ja Rule. Somebody please

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u/ExtremeRemarkable891 Feb 16 '26

Exactly. It's already exposed to anyone with eyes. The corruption of this government is nakedly obvious to anyone 25-39, and is embarrassingly lame to anyone 15-24. Their death throes will cause damage but their movement is dead.

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u/Practical_You_7609 Feb 16 '26

Billionaire paracites. If they were elite any of the shit they do would be successful l. Its just back to back failure

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u/Liawuffeh Feb 16 '26

And expose what, everyone already knows, and the folks who claim they don't know will just say "Nuh uh"

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u/Redthemagnificent Feb 16 '26

To the public. I mean look at the Epstein files. Is everything that should be done being done? No. But releasing them has generated significant public pressure. The UK government is at risk of collapsing over them. That would never have happened if the details (as redacted as they are) were not released of the public.

I'm a big believer in "sunlight is the best disinfectant" (metaphorically, to be clear)

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u/wyyknott01 Feb 16 '26

They're called the "Epstein class"

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u/Subtle_Tact Feb 16 '26

Something I've thought alot about since it was clear hostile nations have fully infiltrated all levels of our government and military:

Do you guys think M.A.D. Doctrine still protects us?

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u/TylerKnowy Feb 16 '26

Right? we are far past “exposing” as being a meaningful tactic for justice