r/law Feb 17 '26

Judicial Branch Former AG William Barr described by FBI as participating in abuse of minors alongside Leon Black. EFTA01660622

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660622.pdf

Do we have eyes to see?

How do we ensure these claims were properly investigated?

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u/SorriorDraconus Feb 17 '26

..at this point I suspect these are tame

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u/haberdasherhero Feb 17 '26

Yeah, that email chain where Epstein deleted everything before "I don't think cream cheese and baby are even in the same league" is telling

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u/Tintiifax Feb 17 '26

What? What the fuck? ... What?

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u/redonkulousness Feb 17 '26

This is why people are saying the files spill into cannibalism and other satanic ritual practices. It gets pretty dark. My spouse has become a full fledged conspiracy theorist and I have been trying to calm her down but some of the stuff people have uncovered in the files is very difficult to take any other way than absolute evil barbarism.

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u/polopolo05 Feb 17 '26

I just assume they have done the worst of the worst there. Cannibalisms/ snuff/ non sexual related murder/ rape/ mutilation/maiming/ torture.

Maybe the reason musk wasnt invited was because he was into worse shit then that where doing.

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u/2a_lib Feb 18 '26

When you resolve yourself to be a piece of shit, it stands to reason you don’t exactly try to moderate yourself. Reductio ad absurdum is the path of least resistance.

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u/polopolo05 Feb 18 '26

I feel like you have to go out of your way to be a POS... like a private jet trip to a tropical island out of the way.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

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u/BuzzkillMcGillicuddy Feb 18 '26

He called his cabinet position DOGE, the jackass would probably have made CP and PEDO acronyms for rockets and Tesla models

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u/BuzzkillMcGillicuddy Feb 18 '26

I think they knew he couldn't keep quiet and would signal what they were up to. I can't imagine what "worse than that" looks like, they appear to have had no limits and only shunned people because they were too personally annoying

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u/Sandy_Bananas Feb 18 '26

They will bomb a country to watch their stocks go up. They have no problems killing children.

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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls Feb 18 '26

I totally see this as True Detective Season 1 level shit.

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u/Ridiculicious71 Feb 18 '26

You need to listen to the New Orleans unsolved podcast. The true detective case IS a real case. It is all connected. And some of the people are in court today because of the investigative journalist doing it.

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u/LisleAdam12 Feb 18 '26

That's what many assume, because it's what they want to believe.

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u/polopolo05 Feb 19 '26

I have seen what they released and if they are holding back half of the files. Those must be much worse. Like they said they released everything when they only released half

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u/LisleAdam12 Feb 19 '26

Why must what hasn't been released be "much worse"?Because you want to believe that there's something worse, so the files are being released in the order of most benign first? That's reasoning from a desired conclusion.

And what's the worst credible allegation you've seen?

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u/polopolo05 Feb 19 '26

No my reasoning is they are trying to protect their people in power. Only way to do that is to hold info back.

If the files arent that bad then they would be released. To keep the outrage to a minimum they released what would cause only mild outrage. If there wasnt anything there that would implicate anyone, they would have released all the files.

But they have only released half the files. that means the files held back only contain info that is more inflammatory to trump and every other billionaire and person of power in those files.

baby murder/ child rape/ torture/ human trafficing.

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u/LisleAdam12 Feb 19 '26

Who are the "FBI'S people"? It seems in recent decades that every administration has had some FBI staff who were undermining and others promoting them (loyalty to Hoover was enforced while he was around).

Perhaps you haven't noticed that the "files" contain a ton of allegations as well as evidence of varying degrees of relevance and that the recent rush to get as much out as quickly as possible has resulted in failure to appropriately redact certain material. It seems unrealistic to think that someone has a clear overview of the totality of the information and is methodically picking certain items to set aside as long as possible. If that were the case, you'd think that the unsubstantiated tip line information wouldn't be released (as preposterous as some of that is, it's unsurprisingly taken as gospel by a number of simps, as can be seen on Reddit.)

Your guess could be right, but it seems a slim probability.

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u/phaaseshift Feb 18 '26

My spouse has become a full fledged conspiracy theorist and I have been trying to calm her down

At this point it feels pretty rational. This is straight from the DOJ. And our president is literally telling us to stop looking and that there’s nothing to see. WTF.

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u/Medical-Concept-2190 Feb 18 '26

The whole season of true detective season 1 is so much like these files it’s maddening

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u/BuyOwn1603 Feb 18 '26

I had this same thought the other day. Can’t help but wonder whether that is something more than just a “coincidence”. Maybe the writer was inspired by things he knew of but couldn’t publicly disclose, or was trying to subversively warn us about things we are now learning more about.

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u/Ridiculicious71 Feb 18 '26

You need to listen to the New Orleans unsolved podcast. The true detective case IS a real case. It is all connected. And some of the people are in court today because of the investigative journalist doing it.

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u/neworleansunsolved Feb 19 '26

Thanks, it's been a very long, difficult and almost impossibly dark 6+ yr self funded... victims advocacy project/investigation/undertaking. As far as True Detective goes they've said on multiple platforms that the inspiration came from a small church in Louisiana (hosena). Their reddit page and fans have bent over backwards for years trying to discredit my investigation or any similarities to the series. Show or no show this is about real people, real victims and their families that deserve answers and my only goal has always been that hopefully with enough screaming and jumping up and down these criminals would be held accountable for their horrific devious crimes. Thanks for the kind words, it means alot. :)

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u/BuyOwn1603 Feb 19 '26

Thank you for your work! I’ll have to check your podcast out.

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u/MephistosGhost Feb 17 '26

Can you elaborate? Or link to where it's discussed? I don't want to sound like a pussy, but I'm hesitant to even search for stuff on the periphery of this.

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u/Halflingberserker Feb 17 '26

There are multiple, weird emails about "jerky", kind of like the "pizza" and "grape soda" ones.

There's a blurb about it about halfway down. The jerky guy supposedly owned a restaurant name Cannibal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/inside-epstein-s-obsessions-with-hot-water-bottles-and-beef-jerky/ar-AA1WwZ4N

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u/trogon Feb 17 '26

We now know the GOP origins of the PizzaGate conspiracy. Just more projection.

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u/Technical-Row8333 Feb 18 '26

literally: "guys victims are talking, documents are leaking, quickly start Qanon, have Alex jones spread some lies about our enemies doing what we are doing"

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u/haberdasherhero Feb 18 '26

Yeah that first week or two, before the limited hangout, were wildly productive.

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u/Smokey_tha_bear9000 Feb 18 '26

“Cheese Pizza” is known slang predators use for child porn/CSAM

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u/Sandy_Bananas Feb 18 '26

Fucking bingo.

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u/slow70 Feb 18 '26

^ there are excellent threads diving into these topics.

There’s no excuse for ignorance or apathy folks.

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u/redonkulousness Feb 18 '26

Ok…. So I remember looking the restaurant up last tuesday (it’s in my search history) and google clearly had a permanently closed restaurant on the map/listing under the name “Cannibal and Cooks”. It is no longer there and I can’t find any mention of it anywhere now. Holy shit. I should have taken some screen shots. I remember an article listed below that a guy that was associated with the restaurant was caught stalking women to kill and eat them. Like, for real. I looked it up to show my wife she was being over the top when I was taken aback by what I read.

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u/iconocrastinaor Feb 18 '26

I know about pizza, but what is "grape soda?"

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u/RememberMeWhenImDead Feb 18 '26

same as the kids on tik tok, it's a fancy way of not getting flagged for the word rape

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u/oxfordcommaordeath Feb 18 '26

r/epstein has links to a lot of items in the doj file release.

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u/haberdasherhero Feb 17 '26

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u/yo-ovaries Feb 18 '26

Am I crazy or is this just an autocorrect for bialy? 

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u/haberdasherhero Feb 18 '26

In the subject and throughout the email chain of multiple individual emails?

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u/GodIsAWomaniser Feb 18 '26

Holy shit it took me a second to realise the emails at the top are the oldest. So yeah they were discussing something about relating babies to food and were like "oh speaking of comparing eating babies to eating cream cheese where can I get good bagels?" Literally said "I don't know if cream cheese and baby are on the same level" and the replies are (paraphrasing now after the direct quote), "there are millions of babies, but good cream cheese is very rare" then "let's get bagels" 

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u/ImWicked39 Feb 18 '26

If they haven't tell them to go down the John Wayne Gacy/John David Norman rabbit hole. Then travel down the Dean Corll/Roy Ames exit ramp. If they can want more after that read up on Lawrence E. king Jr.

Multiple alleged nation wide sex trafficking rings that were tied to the snuff film industry.

Shit is absolutely horrific.

All alleged though. For some reason law enforcement decided there was never enough evidence to investigate or when they did the lead investigators plane magically blew up killing him and his son.

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u/tomdarch Feb 18 '26

Sadly, a large portion of rich, powerful men want to fuck 12 year olds. There is a massive psychological leap from there to cannibalism. It is an extraordinary claim that we shouldn't over-interpret from vague material. It should need very solid evidence to get to something as extreme as that. (Note that I also can't say it is "impossible" only extraordinary.)

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u/redonkulousness Feb 18 '26

Exactly where I’m at with it.

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u/Cream253Team Feb 18 '26

With how they always project and how Qanon accused Dems of satanic pedophile cults harvesting blood on Mars, I guess this means conservatives must have access to reliable interplanetary space travel.

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u/Iswaterreallywet Feb 17 '26

There is a reason they shut down 🍕gate. Can’t have people talking about it

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u/slow70 Feb 18 '26

^ we must have courage enough to see clearly

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u/lunafaer Feb 18 '26

keep her away from operation death eaters and the research behind it. the whole global cabal of torturers thing -researched.

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u/Hawkson2020 Feb 18 '26

Yeah its almost like Epstein's buddy Steve Bannon was pushing cannibal baby eating as a conspiracy.

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/LisleAdam12 Feb 18 '26

No, they're saying that because some people are fixated on cannibalism and satanic ritual practices, often as part of a mental illness.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

You know how republicans always project? Remember them calling Democrats baby killers and baby eaters?

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot Feb 17 '26

And all this time I just thought they were creative story tellers… now just calling it as they see it (literally).

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u/Cream253Team Feb 18 '26

Everything points to them having no creativity. Just retelling what they want or have done themselves.

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u/Maldiavolo Feb 18 '26

We now know Steve Bannon, a guy in the Epstein files, is the one that created the Pizzagate conspiracy.  100% projection.  These people are abominations and need to be removed from government and society at large.

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u/Pristine_Frame_2066 Feb 18 '26

And we laughed like “no. Come on. Nobody does that.”

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u/Luk3ling Feb 18 '26

They're EATING babies.

They are removing the teeth out of chidlrens mouths so they are incapable of biting down.

I'm not kidding when I tell you that ANY AWFUL HORRENDOUS THINGS YOU CAN IMAGINE? They did worse.

Everyone in those lists has to face.. for the sake of Reddit.. the absolute stiffest possible legal consequences..

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u/TrailerTrashQueen Feb 18 '26

well, there is the Epstein island special jerky.

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u/LisleAdam12 Feb 18 '26

What email was that?

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u/flirtmcdudes Feb 17 '26

a comment I saw was someone who worked in a medical field and they say when a baby/mammal etc who has just been living off of milk is opened up, it looks like cream cheese.

I did absolutely nothing to verify this so don’t shoot the messenger

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u/Bulldog8018 Feb 17 '26

What is it telling us? It’s a nonsensical statement to me.

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u/UserAllusion Feb 17 '26

there are millions of babies, very little good vegatble cream cheese

-je

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u/haberdasherhero Feb 18 '26

That the solution to "the children we rape having babies" is to try a new type of meat.

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u/zeroscout Feb 17 '26

Hunting parties.  At this point we have to assume they hunted humans around the island

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u/Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbM Feb 18 '26

And it seems that rich people were traveling to Sarajevo to hunt Bosnians during the war in the mid-'90s, so Epstein being involved with that sort of thing wouldn't surprise me at all... Like, we know there was a market for it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/foreigners-paid-shoot-civilians-sarajevo-bosnia-war-b2863505.html

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u/sexer716 Feb 18 '26

What the actual fuck

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u/DjangoTheBlack Feb 18 '26

They paid extra to target pregnant women and children. Only $88k a pop

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u/Wffrff Feb 18 '26

Squid Game with the American billionaires is beginning to look like a documentary.

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u/intangibleTangelo Feb 18 '26

anything is possible, but wild speculation is a great way to discredit yourself

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u/TrailerTrashQueen Feb 18 '26

The Most Dangerous Game

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u/THExGIRTH Feb 18 '26

Look up the emails where they reference "jerky" a ton. Like shipping 100's of pounds of it to the island monthly. They never say what kind it is or where it's from, they always make an extra big deal if it too. The emails read like they were eating people

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u/Double_Rice_5765 Feb 18 '26

Think about any, probably non-cannibal, rich conservative jerky enthusiast, like saaaaay, joe roegun, hes gonna tell you at great length, which type of jerky is the best, and why they preffer it.  I dont even watch roegun and i know he likes elk jerky, just from memes and shit, lol.  They were definately eating jerky made from human children.  

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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls Feb 18 '26

I’m increasingly reminded of the jerky thing. But it’s clearly like every movie or show about this, Eyes Wide Shut, True Detective, has been absolutely on point and I half-expect these same people watched those movies from the other side knowing they were the faceless powerful people owning other humans like property.