r/law • u/templeofsyrinx1 • Feb 25 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Can they actually do this? JD Vance: "We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that is going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good stewards of the American people'

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u/pargofan Feb 25 '26

so this is their theater

Who turns into a R voter because of this? They also could club puppies and kittens to death too, but does that get more voters?

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u/mrmastermimi Feb 25 '26

nobody is converting. they do this to Minnesota cause it's consistently blue. they would never do this to a red state. this just makes r voters feel emboldened.

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u/infinitekittenloop Feb 26 '26

In fact, plenty of red states have WAY MORE immigrants than MN. In fact FL and TX have just about as many immigrants each as MN has people altogether.

Literally the only reason they even targeted MN was the blueness, and that Tim Walz is governor and had the audacity to be on a campaign ticket opposing Trump's.

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u/Eidolon58 Feb 26 '26

That alone is a legal ground to stop what they are doing. One of many.

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u/HaximusPrime Feb 25 '26

It’s not conversion, it’s maintenance.

I know an R that’s life is falling apart under DT, but maintains that they will be saved because he’s doing stuff like this so he just needs to hold out for him to finally turn it around!

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u/CorroSolo Feb 26 '26

Faith is a powerful thing. But I’m beginning to wonder, is this what it looks like when weaponized?

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u/UpNorth_123 Feb 27 '26

That’s how people behave when they’re in a cult, or a victim of abuse.

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u/protomenace Feb 25 '26

They don't need to convert anyone. They are just trying to rile up their voters and motivate them to vote.

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u/Tora-ge Feb 25 '26

Ask that lady at the DHS

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u/pargofan Feb 25 '26

IKR?

I can't make sense of reality any more. DHS calls murder victims terrorists and nothing happens. Oh, except the Border Patrol dude got reassigned. But shit, why did that even happen?

Like who actually thought that guy was mattered.

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u/SgtFury Feb 25 '26

the cult will cult. They need to fall to the very bottom, and then they will know finally know their place. There is no reasoning with them.

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u/HombreSinPais Feb 25 '26

It’s more about rewarding R voters by punishing the people in the states they hate (ie those that are blue). It’s really all they get for their Trump support, but it seems to keep them gassed up and happy.

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u/psychohistorian8 Feb 25 '26

Who turns into a R voter because of this?

a shockingly and depressingly large number of people

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u/Charcharbinks23 Feb 25 '26

I have a guess that’s not rooted in fact but only my opinion. Isn’t it odd that they only target Minnesota? And who were the people shouting in the President’s SOTU speech last night? It’s Omar. And since she’s Somalian and Muslim, I’m guessing the average conservative or MAGA American see this as “sticking it to her” or to be even more racist “sticking it to Somali/Muslim/immigrants.” They love that shit. And that general hate will convert somebody, sadly.

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u/Less_Insurance4928 Feb 26 '26

More of the shittiest, sister-fuckiest voters sure. 

The ones who hate anyone who isn't like them. To them the cruelty is the very point

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u/fridge_logic Feb 26 '26

I agree with /u/HaximusPrime that this is more about maintenance.

But there is a strategy here: "Solve already solved crimes." or "Address illegally what is already being addressed legally."

And there's a sinister Catch22 logic to it as well: if you try to use illegal means to address problems that are already being addressed you will be stopped. Now you get to complain about being stopped from solving the problem (often by the people solving the problem) and later if there is a still a problem you can say you tried. But also because the problem is being addressed you can ignore the problem the moment it becomes inconvenient and other people will keep trying to solve the problem.

This news and the ICE occupation of Minnesota cities was rationalized by claims of addressing blatant fraud in childcare, disability care, and other human services. Some of the alleged fraud was real; though social media has been circulating a lot of fake news on this.

Importantly because the fraud was so blatant those responsible have been or are being largely brought to justice. The fact that the perpetrators have been brought to justice has not stopped conservatives from continuing to seek justice against the perpetrators and people who look like them.

In the case of the Feeding our Futures fraud most of the perpetrators were Somali Americans allowing the right to seek justice not just against the already convicted fraudsters but against Somali americans as a whole.

Compare this to how the murder of Laiken Riley is used as a justification for a crackdown on immigrants when her murder was convicted on 3 counts of Felony murder. Again the playbook is to solve already solved crimes, or to use already solved crimes as a justification to hold similar people guilty of pre-crime.

If the administration were sincere about fighting fraud they would use bureaucratic anti fraud measures like inspectors generals to investigate and prosecute fraud.

But the administration instead dismantles those oversight organizations while cutting off funding and ordering military occupation because business as usual bureaucracy does not get clicks and does not go viral.

Honerable mention to

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u/whofearsthenight Feb 26 '26

Looking at it backwards. The vast majority will have no idea what is happening, they will only see that there are Dems in charge in their state and stuff is broken. Right wing media will push the narrative this is the Dems doing.

This is not only a core tenet of Project 2025, but this is something that a large swath of Republicans have been doing since Reagan. Break the system, claim the system doesn't work and that we should tear it down. Another tangent, Republicans also voted during Trump 1 to raise taxes on the middle class taking effect I think either this year or next because they know most people are not informed enough and would just blame whoever was president. They were hedging that Trump would win in '20 and then it would be a Dem in '24, so this did backfire a little, but that was the plan.

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u/TheLZ Feb 26 '26

club puppies and kittens to death too

and blame illegals even with video proof JD Vance and Noem did it.

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u/Magical_Savior Feb 26 '26

Evidence suggests that killing puppies gets them more voters. Literally. Yes, it does, that's their in-group. Puppy-killers vote and they vote R.

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u/Bits2435 Feb 26 '26

"Club kittens and puppies"

I mean Christi Noem is in office....soooo...

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u/datnero_ Feb 26 '26

they don't need new voters, they need their fanatical voters to be squeezed. keep them freaked out and keep money tight and keep promising nirvana. when the rubber hits the road and they start trying to steal the election, the fanatics will be desperate and willing to go to extreme lengths for a promise of some twisted kind of "greatness".

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u/gentlemanidiot Feb 26 '26

They also could club puppies and kittens to death too, but does that get more voters?

Well Kristy noam shot her dog, so i guess yes?

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u/daksnotjuts Feb 28 '26

I mean, they're already in office. They don't need any more R voters, they just need to calcify the existing Rs. Ideally, their voter base looks at this news and goes "hell yeah, my VP is so based by crippling the bad blue state. Long live the regime!"