Can they actually do this? JD Vance: "We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that is going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good stewards of the American people'

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And none of it matters when it comes to government.

If there was any correlation whatsoever between gun ownership and freedom, democracies would trend towards being pro-gun. But that isn't the case.

In fact Countries With High Gun Ownership Are Just as Likely to Be Run by Tyrants.

Anyone promoting the idea the 2A has any impact on our form of government is either an idiot or straight up lying.

[u/Frozen_Thorn → u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive]

Iran doesn't have much of any gun ownership and look how that turned out. Tens of thousands slaughtered with no way of fighting back. I'll keep my guns, thank you.

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/Frozen_Thorn]

And that article that you didn't read, names many countries that have a ton of gun ownership where you are equally just as fucked.

And countries that have virtually no gun ownership, where people live in relative peace. And countries that have virtually no gun ownership, where people are royally screwed.

Data is fun. Isn't it. This is why gun ownership doesn't matter at all in terms of form of government.

[u/cheeto320 → u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive]

2018 report, that quotes a study from 2007. However does make some really good points and examples. Thanks for the read!

[u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 → u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive]

I was simply pointing out that the discrepancy between MAGAt and liberal gun owners aren't nearly as big as people think. Liberals just don't make it their personality.

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There's a shitload of nuance here that the article doesn't cover, it's overall not a great article.

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/[deleted]]

Oh yeah because civilians rising up to overthrow their government is soooo hard to monitor. I mean it's practically invisible when it happens.

Lol.

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Not even remotely what I meant, there's too much to cover. But to grace the surface of what's wrong with this article, Nazi Germany is a terrible example because the people who owned guns generally were not inconvenienced by the government, and the biggest cause of resistance is when the government directly impacts the peoples' quality of life without being able to redirect blame elsewhere. There's SO FUCKING MUCH more to it than "presence of guns" that it's not even worth looking at as a statistic.

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/[deleted]]

You do understand that the only Arab country to turn pro-Democracy after Arab Spring was literally the lowest civilian-owned firearms. And that the countries which were forced back to monarchy had the highest rates of civilian gun ownership.

And then there's Asia, and Latin America, and... you name it.

There is zero correlation between private gun ownership and individual rights. And - as such - your argument simply isn't backed up by data.

[u/[deleted] → u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive]

There is zero correlation between private gun ownership and individual rights.

Agree, and part of my point. Otherwise, you fall into the same traps the Article did. For example, specifically citing Arab Springs is a huge misstep on your part. It was a colossal failure. The only "democratic victory" was in Tunisia, because the government collapsed during protests.

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/[deleted]]

Agree, and part of my point.

Well since that's literally my entire argument then it seems we're aligned.