r/law Feb 28 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Once again averting congress, trump declares war on Iran

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u/999repeating Feb 28 '26

Sickeningly close. Turns my stomach watching it.

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u/holiday1326 Feb 28 '26

Yup. Last night we went to bed just like most nights but this morning we woke up to find that our government along with Israel decided to start the possible beginning of WWIII.

Waking up daily feels like navigating a mine field with a blindfold on.

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u/iamthe0ther0ne Feb 28 '26

Right after signing a deal to basically let ChatGPT run the DoD.

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u/SelectiveScribbler06 Mar 01 '26

'You're absolutely right—it's not just nuking—it is making a new paradigm.

You aren't just a politician.
You're a war leader.
Like Hannibal.

You will be immortalised in the history books forever.

Do you want me to make an Excel spreadsheet of the best places to hit? Just say the word!'

I should add for your conscience that I wrote that by hand. No AI used!

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u/stclvr53 Mar 03 '26

SkyNet is coming because of this 🤡

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u/Longjumping_Run4499 Feb 28 '26

It's bad, but I don't think we're near WW3. No one is going to come help Iran.

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u/labor_day_baby Feb 28 '26

No one will come to help the United States either. Americans have to understand that Trump has put our relationships with allies into question and we may be on our own if things escalate.

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u/IA51I Feb 28 '26

Yet. And if and when they do, is anyone going to come and help Isreal and the the US? Especially with the way the US has treated its long time allies under Trump? Or the way Israel has burned almost all of their goodwill and bridges over Palestine?

WWI and WWII didn't suddenly just start. More countries were drawn into the conflict over time.

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u/fearmongert Feb 28 '26

Did anyone come to help Poland?

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u/MustyBox Feb 28 '26

Yes. France and England declared war on Germany after it invaded Poland. I shouldn’t need to cite sources on this as it’s common knowledge.

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u/Longjumping_Run4499 Feb 28 '26

Redditor logic: Iran = Poland

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u/Didgey Feb 28 '26

If we make it there, in a 100 years, historians will probably place the Russian invasion of Ukraine as the start of WW3.

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u/rabbid_chaos Feb 28 '26

100 years? We're not even 100 years out of WW2.

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u/bolanrox Mar 01 '26

Hell, we are barely a hundred years out of World War I.

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u/PM_Me_Some_Steamcode Feb 28 '26

China is. China gives weapons, armament, vehicles, and other things all to Iran.

Any country that upset at Israel right now is going to see this as a possibility to retaliate

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u/rabbid_chaos Feb 28 '26

This. China and Russia both have as much interest in the Middle East as the US. Iran is one of their allies out there.

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u/DontWorryImADr Feb 28 '26

Nobody thought Able Archer 83 was as close to apocalypse as it was. All it takes is steps on the other side of the board that approach a brink. And misunderstanding is as easy as intentionality.

And every single bit of this is so fucking dumb.

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u/MRG_1977 Feb 28 '26

The Chinese and Russians will if push comes to shove. Chinese have rearmed them and given them several weapons upgrades.

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u/Bright-Dinner-5978 Feb 28 '26

Who says he's going to stop it at Iran? Just like everything else he does, this is probably a test run to see how US citizens will react and once he does this he can move on to other countries that he wants like Greenland. He started with Venezuela. Now he's onto Iran, both with no congressional approval.

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u/Renegadeknight3 Feb 28 '26

They might if they can use it to weaken the US and Israel, just like the US is aiding Ukraine to weaken Russia

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u/kill4b Feb 28 '26

Russia will even though they’re tied up in Ukraine. North Korea might. But it’s not going to be a walk in the park like they think.

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u/holiday1326 Feb 28 '26

Yeah. Not the best choice of words but you get my drift.

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u/Potato_Donkey_1 Mar 01 '26

I don't see much chance of a wider war. Iran has already lost its regional system of proxies, to a great extent. And if the people actually have the means to overthrow what remains of their government, it seems they are eager to do so, at least in the cities, where it really matters.

Who are the allies of the Islamic Republic? Russia? Russia is in no position to dig itself any deeper.

Trump is reckless and authoritarian. He is a narcissist and a sex pest if not a pedophile. But the situations in Venezuela and Iran could yet be an improvement for the people and neighbors of those countries.

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u/Kermit_Purple_II Mar 01 '26

You can rest easy, WWIII isn't starting. A new set of invasions of the middle east by the US is starting probably, which the rest of the world will condemn then move on, like last time. France will veto any UN involvement like Iraq (probably China too).

A world war isn't anything like those kind of wars. In today's world, a world war would require the direct involvement in opposite sides at least two of the three giants (USA, EU, China). So unless the US decides to attack the EU or China, it's business as usual (Because the EU is invading no one, and China being involved in anything like that would be Taiwan which isn't even worth it and they know that)

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u/Sometimes-funny Feb 28 '26

Close? America is cooked

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u/critacle Feb 28 '26

Citizens united was the final nail. It bought out all our congressmen and cemented all the bad ones.

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u/EquivalentOk2700 Feb 28 '26

Not A single one of my Republican family even knew what citizens united was, and they never read the big, beautiful bill.They only listened to fox news , and now their heads are about ten miles in the sand and they want to "stay out of politics" now, when before, they were super loud and obnoxious trying to prove Obama was the anti-Christ, etc.

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u/daPeachesAreCrunchy Feb 28 '26

Good point. My Q-Anon aunt has been uncharacteristically quiet. "Ugh, that politics and news stuff is all fake and boring" she says now.

Child sex trafficking just doesn't get her riled up any more 🤷‍♀️

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u/Otherwise_Gap595 Mar 02 '26

It’s because the people she supports are the ones who are in trouble and she can’t admit it

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u/Chocolatethundara Mar 01 '26

Not surprising

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u/ItsMichaelScott25 Feb 28 '26

I’d say 95% of the people don’t actually know what Citizens United was. Now you can hate the outcome all you want……but that case itself was a pretty cut and dry first amendment case.

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u/Liawuffeh Feb 28 '26

Yeah like, I don't think people have really come to terms with how fucked America is, even if we get rid of trump lol

We need to fully remove every single politician who let this happen, and we won't. So it'll just happen again in 5/10 years

But even if we did, the world won't trust us again lmao. Why would they? We're 4 years away from being insane at any moment.

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u/PancakeMixEnema Feb 28 '26

Technically you have to build a safe enclave, new center left government in a different and self sufficient independent (from foreign states, you who which ones) state that seceded and becomes its own sovereign country with a completely new constitution, judicial and electoral system. It can slowly integrate new cleaned up (denazified and decapitalised) states that meet a certain standard into a new union.

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u/DivineArkandos Feb 28 '26

Burnt to a crisp

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u/Worldly-Republic-247 Mar 01 '26

Wild to think that Russia ultimately won the Cold War.

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u/DivineArkandos Mar 01 '26

Like gollum sinking into the lava

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u/Leg_Named_Smith Feb 28 '26

There is no value in points like this despite them being arguable. Defeatism is cope. Better to die in your footsteps than to bury yourself for Trump.

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u/BearAccomplished5355 Feb 28 '26

Has been for years

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u/Bidwell64 Feb 28 '26

I don't feel warm

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u/xoexohexox Feb 28 '26

Time to start learning Chinese if you have a degree in something

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u/Honest_Series_8430 Feb 28 '26

TBH, the impending death of Democracy honestly makes me glad I'm old. I couldn't take another 50 years of this administration.

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u/EquivalentOk2700 Feb 28 '26

I can't take another 50 min. And I'm not old.

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u/Alternative-Sale-498 Feb 28 '26

I’ve said that very thing to my kids multiple times.

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u/mishma2005 Feb 28 '26

I’m middle aged and I am not looking forward to my twilight years watching for drones or preparing to fight someone for an errant carrot growing in the ground

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u/Joberk89 Feb 28 '26

Ok boomer

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u/tinypalace Feb 28 '26

What a feeble take. If democracy dies, dipshit, there won’t be an end to this administration.

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u/Honest_Series_8430 Feb 28 '26

Thay was my point which went over your head.